DBounce Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 Is it just me or does the 120fps look like crap?its just you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregormannschaft Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 its just you.And the YouTube compression at work, most likely. Waves are never good to put into compression as the whole screen is moving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikkor Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 Yeah, the waves video looks terrible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AaronChicago Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 What features does the A7rII have over this that justifies the extra cost? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregormannschaft Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 What features does the A7rII have over this that justifies the extra cost?Massive resolution photos...which is a big bonus if you're looking for an all in one camera. Cinegain, Don Kotlos, Marco Tecno and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chris Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 Massive resolution photos...which is a big bonus if you're looking for an all in one camera.Also, BSI sensor with faster readout, same FPS despite 3.5x the MP.PADF, which gives you vastly superior eye AF and better tracking AF - features I find to be awesome, but I shoot hundreds of stills a week.Honestly, I was hoping for a MP bump with full readout on S35 mode, faster FPS and PADF - something we'll probably see next year in the A7sIII. To me this is just meh. But I'm pretty happy with my A7rII.edit: honestly, sticking with 8-bit is the biggest disappointment. I have to step up to the FS5 to get 10-bit. nathanleebush 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AaronChicago Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 Makes sense. One is geared toward photo/video, and the other is geared toward video/photo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBounce Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 For me the elephant in the room is does it overheat? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neosushi Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 For me the elephant in the room is does it overheat?Seems to me that the lower resolution sensor should help a lot with that - but I'm no engineer :/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JurijTurnsek Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 Seems to me that the lower resolution sensor should help a lot with that - but I'm no engineer :/ No downsampling = less CPU intensive, less heat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antonis Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 A very welcome addition is S-LOG 3 (and along with it the S-Gamut 3 colour mode) but I am mystified as to why the A7R II is stuck with the old version of S-LOG 2! Clearly, shot matching between these two on one shoot is going to be “fun”!The new camera will also have S-LOG 2, so you can easily switch back and have even more fun kaylee 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
photographer-at-large Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 Hoping this prompts Canon to respond with 5Dc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattH Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 Andrew, there is a small typo in the article. You write: "I think those who bought an FS7 or A7S II might be thinking". You obviously mean A7r ii. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flynn Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 The 8 bit is the biggest disappointment. But other than that, and as long as there's no overheating, it's looking like a pretty sweet camera. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rinad Amir Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 I have feeling this thing is gona overheat after 20min of 4k with high ISO ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Kotlos Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 I doubt slog3 is going to be better than slog2. If anything it will make it worse for skin colors since there are even less values assigned in mid gray level. Increasing the dynamic range with 8 bits is just not good for skin colors. I wish they had included 10 bits. But that might have been impossible with the current thermal envelope of these cameras. Now, the only difference between this and A7rII for my use is the better high ISO sensitivity. Maybe the overheating too since I doubt they released a video centric camera with overheating problems. User 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBounce Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 I doubt slog3 is going to be better than slog2. If anything it will make it worse for skin colors since there are even less values assigned in mid gray level. Increasing the dynamic range with 8 bits is just not good for skin colors. I wish they had included 10 bits. But that might have been impossible with the current thermal envelope of these cameras. Now, the only difference between this and A7rII for my use is the better high ISO sensitivity. Maybe the overheating too since I doubt they released a video centric camera with overheating problems. I firmly believe it is in Sony's interest to reassure the market that overheating will not be a problem with this camera. It's too big of a problem to ignore. IronFilm and Flynn 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattH Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 Is it just me or does the 120fps look like crap?Waves always look bad. So much moving stuff to confuse and overwork the compression. I think normal things will look quite good. 120fps at 1080p full readout is pretty novel actually. Obviously if you want 4k slow motion you need to get an 7S7 or URSA. No stills cam does it. Gregormannschaft 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregormannschaft Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 I was looking forward to this announcement and now I'm not so sure what I think. All the obvious improvements are there, IBIS, 4K plus that nice extra of 1080p 120fps. And, of course, I look forward to seeing some consumer footage. But I had kind of hoped for less rolling shutter...or slightly increased MP count...I might save (a lot) more and look at the Ursa Mini at some point. I can't quite get over the fact that some of the most impressive and filmic footage I've seen is from Blackmagic. sudopera, kaylee, iamoui and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrorSvensson Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 Dang. Sony's been cooking up something! Quite pricey, but then again I was only expecting internal 4K and some minor changes. S-LOG3 and 5-axis IBIS is pretty sweet.The slow motion looks really soft. A7rii's slow motion looks sharper to my eye. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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