mtheory Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 I read the latest EMPIRE magazine today, it had an interview with James Cameron ( not available online ) and he was asked about whether he was still set to release Avatar sequels in 60 fps...guess what...he backtracked completely...saying that he will film 48fps, and not the whole film but only parts of it...in fact, he said he will only use HFR on horizontal panning shots! :D Victory for us and death to HFR! He must have gotten the message that audiences hate it after Jackson's massive mess with Hobbit in HFR and wisely decided to almost completely abandon the idea. I think we can all breathe a collective sigh of relief now, - 24fps is here to stay. Axel 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axel Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 In the 3D version of Avatar, horizontal pans on the military base did'nt look smooth. It's not always a bad idea to swallow poison. It depends on the circumstances, on the dose and on your expectations of the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tosvus Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 Over time, our perceptions may slowly change, as more and more of the material we are bombarded with every day will be high framerates. Right now though, I agree for a cinematic experience that is supposed to be something different than reality, 24 fps does it best for me. Movies where they go for a reality type look (i.e. "someone is taping while a monster is chasing them in the woods"), 60P would probably be great, even now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeys Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 You know, it's amazing how on the mainstream tech sites 3D and HFR were proclaimed as the next best thing. I'm now starting to wonder on their impartiality... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrad Posted December 5, 2014 Share Posted December 5, 2014 HFR could come again. 120hz 'motion flow' is the trojan horse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepyWill Posted December 5, 2014 Share Posted December 5, 2014 Now all we need to do is persuade video game makers that setting the frame rate of their game to sub 60 fps doesn't make it a "cinematic experience", it makes it jerky and nauseating to watch and we will have a full house! mtheory and leeys 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richg101 Posted December 5, 2014 Share Posted December 5, 2014 If only he'd backtrack 20 or so years to the days of terminator2 and aliens.. making 18 certificate action movies with practical efx and soul. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inazuma Posted December 5, 2014 Share Posted December 5, 2014 Why film the panning shots at 48fps if its only going to be shown at the traditional 24fps? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtheory Posted December 5, 2014 Author Share Posted December 5, 2014 "Most of the new digital projectors are capable of projecting at 48 fps, with only the digital servers needing some firmware upgrades." - Jackson The current projectors can probably switch framerates between scenes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtheory Posted December 5, 2014 Author Share Posted December 5, 2014 If only he'd backtrack 20 or so years to the days of terminator2 and aliens.. making 18 certificate action movies with practical efx and soul. He always said that he took this massive break from action movies in order to actually dive into the oceans before he gets too old to do that ( Abyss and Titanic were only made because he wanted to physically dive into the ocean, the films were just an excuse ), so maybe he can finally focus on proper sci-fi action again. After Avatar, I'm really hoping he returns to previously planned projects like Battle Angel, one of the best sci-fi graphic novels of all time, or his Hiroshima movie. Also, in 2018 the rights to the whole Terminator franchise revert back to him...so he might actually do a proper Terminator III. He said if he does it, it will be a very massive re-imagining of the whole concept of cybernetics, so I don't imagine Arnie will be coming back. He also joked he'd love to do Prometheus II . :D Probably just to piss of Ridley Scott, who was always sour for being passed on for the Alien sequel. nahua 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xavier Plagaro Mussard Posted December 5, 2014 Share Posted December 5, 2014 HFR is the anti-cinematic invention. To have pans on 48fps, the whole movie is 48fps, just the 24fps parts have twice every frame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aldolega Posted December 5, 2014 Share Posted December 5, 2014 Projectors already show each frame of a 24p film two or three times, so that wouldn't be any different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeys Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 Now all we need to do is persuade video game makers that setting the frame rate of their game to sub 60 fps doesn't make it a "cinematic experience", it makes it jerky and nauseating to watch and we will have a full house! Hah, yes, games have the other issue - no motion blur means 24 fps in games is a terrible experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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