yohh770 Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 looking to change my system. how is the camera as far as rolling shutter! is it good for action video? will the atomos shugon will be able to transmit raw format feed from camera? is it 8 bit 10 bit or 12 bit. what type of color corrector to use? lens recommendation from Samsung for video. type of memory card? speed ? rig system to add on my xlr recorder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrgl Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 If you are getting crushed blacks, it could be a display calibration difference between my display and yours. Even if I regrade it, it is gonna look wrong for someone. I'll do a proper dynamic range test vs the GH4 and A7S. I don't expect it to beat either of them but it beats the GH4 for colour and it beats the A7S for resolution with internal recording. Red areas have no detail. Must be the vimeo compression. Don't have time to download the file to verify. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ebrahim Saadawi Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 If it had 6 stops of DR and crushed 60% of the images to black everyone would have noticed it immediately. From the those who shot with it see the DR is pretty similar to the rivals gh4/nikon/canon. It's just the grade and exposure choice. I am sure if had used a minus contrast in the profile, didn't add a contrast curve in post and shot this at a higher exposure you would have got a bright image with shadow detail. He went for an under exposed overal look with standing out subjects, it's suitable for a horror piece, I think it does look pretty. Andrew likes blacky blacks and crushed lows, he is not a proponent of using flat gammas or grades. I my self like my image a bit on the lower side on contrast. Having a very stylized grade makes it very difficult to judge a camera's image quality in a neutral way and that's why I asked for a non graded Tiff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neosushi Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 Interesting video, with a more "filmic" aspect (less contrast) but still contrasty and sharp. I think it was shot with the 16-50mm f2-2.8 lens. I really think the colors are nice, however I don't know if this clip was graded or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 560a4aedcb80685284629074497fdc75 Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 I really think the colors are nice, however I don't know if this clip was graded or not. The image is unbelievably detailed and doesn't look digitally sharpened. Colours are really, really nice too. But shadows here are noisy and really lacking in information. No wonder Andrew crushed them in his video. I'm sure this video has been graded. The blue in the shadows is a giveaway - I've never seen any camera do that natively. neosushi 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neosushi Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 The image is unbelievably detailed and doesn't look digitally sharpened. Colours are really, really nice too. But shadows here are noisy and really lacking in information. No wonder Andrew crushed them in his video. I'm sure this video has been graded. The blue in the shadows is a giveaway - I've never seen any camera do that natively. Yep you're right about the blue in the shadows - its definitely suspect -. About the amount of details, I also agree with that, it looks like plain resolution, not a sharpness effect. Thats what 4k should look like ! :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedro Murad Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 But and the audio recording... Is it good? It's not seem, cause this carema uses aac codec and not pcm like the others. Could we work well in the post with aac? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Nguyen Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 Does anybody know of a good Nikon F/G to Samsung NX lens mount adapter that has either an aperture dial + lever for the lens or aperture blades built into the adapter itself? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjwilliams0013 Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 Interesting video, with a more "filmic" aspect (less contrast) but still contrasty and sharp. I think it was shot with the 16-50mm f2-2.8 lens. I really think the colors are nice, however I don't know if this clip was graded or not. I love the look of this video, I think the color and contrast are great. but there was some noise on the cats fur around 1:57. It would be nice to know the settings this was shot on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Andrew Reid Posted November 27, 2014 Author Administrators Share Posted November 27, 2014 There's a lot more in the blacks than my grade served up. The quality of the image in the blacks isn't as good as say ProRes on a Blackmagic so yes that does limit dynamic range if you have to bring the lows into the mids with a brighter exposure, thus risking blowing your highlights out. However a lot depends on the conversion software you use. Wondershare crushes the blacks on default. I can make it produce a very flat image, but that hurts colour... a lot more to come on the workflow I think. It's a shame the Samsung software isn't better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Andrew Reid Posted November 27, 2014 Author Administrators Share Posted November 27, 2014 Here's how flat I can dial the NX1 using the custom picture profile. Pretty flat! Plenty of info in the blacks there and not too noisy at ISO 1600 if you have a decent exposure like the one shown. If you don't then it does get very crushed and noisy down there. andrgl 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Andrew Reid Posted November 27, 2014 Author Administrators Share Posted November 27, 2014 -35 contrast in the converter app (Wondershare) and "Retro" profile on -8 contrast are providing some interesting results in low light at ISO 1600 and 3200. Really moves the blacks away from the danger zone, but doesn't hurt highlights. neosushi 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Andrew Reid Posted November 27, 2014 Author Administrators Share Posted November 27, 2014 If you want a flatter grade then the settings I just posted above plus Film Convert BMCC 2.5K Film gamma as Source Camera and Fj Velvia 100 as the film stock looks lovely! Clean ISO 3200!! Nice silky blacks! neosushi 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrgl Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 Thanks for the stills Andrew. Fuck me, the video from this camera is amazing. Ah, how I wish they'd enable 4:2:2 out or throw their weight into prosumer market. Samsung could be the 800-lb gorilla. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Andrew Reid Posted November 27, 2014 Author Administrators Share Posted November 27, 2014 It has 4:2:2 out. 4096 x 2160 as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrgl Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 Aha. Thank you very much. I wasn't aware. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neosushi Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 Yes it has 4:2:2 but 8 bits :/ Btw - Thanks Andrew for the follow up :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 560a4aedcb80685284629074497fdc75 Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 It's really frustrating that we can't see what noise and DR is like straight off the camera!! :angry: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Andrew Reid Posted November 28, 2014 Author Administrators Share Posted November 28, 2014 Have you downloaded the ungraded files Matt? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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