Ed_David Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 There are more photosites on the RGB sensor on the F35 than any bayer pattern camera since made . Or at least I think so . I don't know. Anyway here's something I just shot on the f35 - regraded using davinci. It can create such lovely colors. Andrew Reid, tosvus and Julian 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Naylor Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 Apacalypto was shot on F35. It uses CCD technology which IMO has better colors than CMOS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Naylor Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 Just watched a bunch of videos made by F35 owners and I am simply amazed with this camera(some great ones from our fellow member Ed David). I wonder what is the reason that Sony can't have F35 colors in new cameras, could it be the CCD sensor. I understand that this was a 250K camera but one would think that they could use that 10 years old knowhow for new cameras. Definitely a CCD vs CMOS issue. I used to shoot a lot of Varicam (3CCD) back in the day and the colors were far richer and truer than RED. webrunner5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jax_rox Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 Definitely a CCD vs CMOS issue. I used to shoot a lot of Varicam (3CCD) back in the day and the colors were far richer and truer than RED. Man, the Varicam had nice colours. The (old) Varicam had three CCDs so theoretically it should have better colours than any single-sensor camera as it has one whole sensor for each colour (even they are 2/3" sensors) You would think 3-sensor S35 digital camera is the logical next step, though I imagine it's probably prohibitively expensive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_David Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 Have you seen Bowling for Columbine recently? It completely looks like it was shot on super 16mm. But I think it was shot on the Sony F900. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Andrew Reid Posted November 23, 2014 Administrators Share Posted November 23, 2014 Digital Bolex has great colour with the CCD in there. One word to describe the colour of a CCD... it's analogue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jax_rox Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 Have you seen Bowling for Columbine recently? It completely looks like it was shot on super 16mm. But I think it was shot on the Sony F900. Bowling for Columbine was shot on F900 and mastered on film. Star Wars Episode II was shot on the F900, with Ep III being shot on the F950. Zombieland, Tron: Legacy, parts of Superbad, Sons of Anarchy, Dexter... shot with Genesis/F35. Most TV shows that are still running that started shooting F35 (Modern Family, for example) eventually switched to Alexa (though some also started on film and switched to the Alexa - The Mentalist for example!). Though, Alexa has somewhat taken off in television because of the native ProRes shooting, so there's no need for dubbing or telecine to get editing, and you don't even necessarily need to do an online/conform if you don't want to. Digital Bolex has great colour with the CCD in there. One word to describe the colour of a CCD... it's analogue. I wonder if that's just our perception of it, as older digital cameras contained CCD chips... therefore if you compare a modern CMOS chip to a CCD, the CCD has an 'older' look to it. CMOS is much cheaper to manufacture than CCD which is probably why it took off. CMOS is also generally not as power-hungry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_David Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 most shows switched to alexa because it was cheaper and easier and a cleaner image and better in low light - so you save on lighting. Also I love the look of the Viper - Benjamin Button and Zodiak look amazing. Also an amazing CCD camera - maybe I should buy one of these. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evan Ferrario Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 sorry to dredge up an old topic but I must chime into the fact that the F35 is not a good handheld camera. Yes it is very heavy, but the only component you need from an F35 is the camera head and IF box, the older obsolete recording system, viewfinder and handles can be made much more compact. F35 weight sits perfectly on my shoulder, DSLR rigs I hold in my arms unless I put a ridiculous back weight or anton bauer battery that sticks out behind my head 8 inches. F35 is very capable of being not just nice but a great handheld camera, it just takes a little creativity and new lightweight parts like the Odyssey 7Q. sudopera 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kristoferman Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 Can you record ten but with a shogun? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronFilm Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 On 11/17/2014 at 1:34 PM, Andrew Reid said: The Sony F3 is another bargain. 444 output, great color, good in low light too... it's now $5k! http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sony-PMW-F3L-Super-35mm-Full-HD-Compact-Camcorder-885-Hours-w-S-Log-Gamma-/331376366422?pt=Camcorders_Professional_Video_Cameras&hash=item4d27921356 And now in late 2017 I've seen the F3 go for sub US$1K!! :-o Crazy crazy, almost tempts me a little to consider buying a second F3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronFilm Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 Someone over on Reddit has just purchased their first cinema camera, a F35! https://www.reddit.com/r/cinematography/comments/bm6qqh/after_much_research_ive_bought_my_first_cinema/ Quote "After much research, I've bought my first cinema camera: The ̶$̶2̶5̶0̶,̶0̶0̶0̶ $3,500 Sony F35." " Cinegain 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mako Sports Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 thats some bump webrunner5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronFilm Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 1 hour ago, Mako Sports said: thats some bump It was that or make a new thread, nah, I pick the 2017 bump! ha Cinegain 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebrothersthre3 Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 3 hours ago, IronFilm said: Someone over on Reddit has just purchased their first cinema camera, a F35! https://www.reddit.com/r/cinematography/comments/bm6qqh/after_much_research_ive_bought_my_first_cinema/ " that guy is my hero Would love to own one of these. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zerocool22 Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 Yeah the F35 has been on my list for a long time. Allthough the Alexa is dropping in price, I might just wait a bit and pull the trigger when the Alexa is at similar price, as it has more DR and I guess is cleaner at iso 800(unconfirmed, just guessing here really) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Members BTM_Pix Posted June 6, 2019 Super Members Share Posted June 6, 2019 I just hope he didn't buy it from the original starter of this thread. Andrew Reid and webrunner5 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronFilm Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 10 minutes ago, BTM_Pix said: I just hope he didn't buy it from the original starter of this thread. haha! 10 minutes ago, zerocool22 said: Yeah the F35 has been on my list for a long time. Allthough the Alexa is dropping in price, I might just wait a bit and pull the trigger when the Alexa is at similar price, as it has more DR and I guess is cleaner at iso 800(unconfirmed, just guessing here really) I'd guess that as well, I'd be shocked if this wasn't true. Quick google suggests ISO 400 for the F35 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinegain Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 When I think F35 I think Ed David... On 4/8/2016 at 6:47 PM, Cinegain said: You know what I think makes a really good Formula 1 or MotoGP driver? That he's as good in the field as he is with his team of engineers. He not only needs to know his personal limits, he needs to know where his machine shines and where there's room for improvement to squeeze out that little bit of extra oompf. Albert Fast is one of these folks that knows the limitations of his gear and knows what to do in post processing to make it go that much further. I feel like that's the real struggle. It's like flying a plane, everyone can make a decent take-off, just throttle up and yank the yoke... pulling off a smooth landing is a 2nd. You've got to have a feeling and understanding for it. It's about putting the puzzle pieces together, you've got to have that oversight. I'm still trying to get to that place with getting my looks down, figuring out the whole deal with all these different LUTs, techniques and methods especially, since I've been shying away from them except for getting quick impressions how different looks would suit certain footage and then just tinkering away from scratch, which tends to get a little time consuming, but I also don't want to throw in a LUT and look like a Instagram hipster. Tough to find that balance, I salute those who have a natural feel for it! One of my fav looking vids to come across over the last year, must have been this one by Ed on the F35, to me that's just gorgeous synergy of men and tools. Such a wicked piece. Think he sold his... ? ade towell and zerocool22 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronFilm Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 59 minutes ago, Cinegain said: Such a wicked piece. Think he sold his... ? Didn't he then get a F65? (although I think I vaguely remember reading about him selling that one as well?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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