Django Posted November 23, 2022 Author Share Posted November 23, 2022 @Emanuel I don't know what's going on in that video. Could be the lens, AF or user error. Fuji AF is very lens dependent because their older lenses were simply not built for video AF (Fuji only got into video with XT2). So again yes you can get pretty good AF with the newer linear motor lenses. You might still get the occasional pulse or hunt and their is no tap to track which is why I'm saying it isn't on par with Canon/Sony AF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emanuel Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 1 hour ago, Django said: @Emanuel I don't know what's going on in that video. Could be the lens, AF or user error. Fuji AF is very lens dependent because their older lenses were simply not built for video AF (Fuji only got into video with XT2). So again yes you can get pretty good AF with the newer linear motor lenses. You might still get the occasional pulse or hunt and their is no tap to track which is why I'm saying it isn't on par with Canon/Sony AF. User error? I find it hard to accept it but it could be lens related yes, indeed. Thanks for your comment and suggestion : ) Once this is the Sony's thread so I am opening a new thread here: Please help. Suggestions are very welcome. BTW do you use any Fujifilm camera atm? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Django Posted November 23, 2022 Author Share Posted November 23, 2022 Not atm but I have in the past so I'm familiar with their AF performance regarding lenses. I've also tested XH2S. Good idea to start a new thread since this is getting very off-topic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markr041 Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 fx30 with an Anamorphic Lens: Trek of Joy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Django Posted November 29, 2022 Author Share Posted November 29, 2022 cool how about some feedback on how the camera operates? is shooting anamorphic a challenge? did you use a monitor to desqueeze? any overall pro/cons? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markr041 Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 4 hours ago, Django said: cool how about some feedback on how the camera operates? is shooting anamorphic a challenge? did you use a monitor to desqueeze? any overall pro/cons? Sure. You can use IBIS, just set lens info in the stabilization menu to 35mm. My videos were all handheld, so IBIS was effective. It's all manual, of course. The big challenge was focus. The lens barrel has distance markings, the focusing mechanism is long throw and linear, which is all good. The magnification button of the fx30 is really helpful as are the colored focusing aid (I chose red). I didn't try the new full screen color mapping for focus. Occasionally I would forget I needed to focus, I have relied so much on Sony's auto focus. It does slow you down. I was conservative in not choosing the widest apertures because I didn't want a shallow dof in case I misfocus. Using wider apertures in some shots would have been nicer for image quality. Also wider apertures make what is not in focus more evident. In DaVinci Resolve desqueezing is easy: just select all clips, right click for clip attributes, and choose the pixel aspect ratio as 1.33X. This perfectly desqueezes this 1.33X anamorphic lens clips. I shot without a monitor to desqueeze. I have no problem composing shots as the lcd shows exactly what is in the frame, just squeezed. I was pleased with the compositions. I have shot anamorphic before without a desqueezing aid. Django and Juank 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angang Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 From what i saw on multiple videos, 4k 120fps have a very big problem with noisy quality. Do you think it is a bug ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomTheDP Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 1 hour ago, angang said: From what i saw on multiple videos, 4k 120fps have a very big problem with noisy quality. Do you think it is a bug ? It crops in on the sensor in 4k 120fps, which makes noise larger and less fine. You just have to expose more carefully or over expose a bit. The good thing is that it's still high bitrate, 10 bit so you have that dynamic range and color information to play with. Juank, IronFilm and Emanuel 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Django Posted November 30, 2022 Author Share Posted November 30, 2022 5 hours ago, markr041 said: Sure. You can use IBIS, just set lens info in the stabilization menu to 35mm. My videos were all handheld, so IBIS was effective. It's all manual, of course. The big challenge was focus. The lens barrel has distance markings, the focusing mechanism is long throw and linear, which is all good. The magnification button of the fx30 is really helpful as are the colored focusing aid (I chose red). I didn't try the new full screen color mapping for focus. Occasionally I would forget I needed to focus, I have relied so much on Sony's auto focus. It does slow you down. I was conservative in not choosing the widest apertures because I didn't want a shallow dof in case I misfocus. Using wider apertures in some shots would have been nicer for image quality. Also wider apertures make what is not in focus more evident. In DaVinci Resolve desqueezing is easy: just select all clips, right click for clip attributes, and choose the pixel aspect ratio as 1.33X. This perfectly desqueezes this 1.33X anamorphic lens clips. I shot without a monitor to desqueeze. I have no problem composing shots as the lcd shows exactly what is in the frame, just squeezed. I was pleased with the compositions. I have shot anamorphic before without a desqueezing aid. Can you magnify while recording? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairkid Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 9 hours ago, Django said: Can you magnify while recording? Yes you can Juank and IronFilm 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emanuel Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 Yet on the above-posted concern and @TomTheDP accurate response ofc, still wondering about the performance of this capture device, also actually noticed by @angang and as for instance here: On 11/21/2022 at 1:14 AM, Emanuel said: Obviously that crop doesn't help either when ISO 2500 is not enough to prevent annoying noise (such as this sample HERE) when under pressure of a higher frame rate. So: Can you @markr041 or any other FX30 user out there, give it a try on low light under distinct ISOs for 4K 120fps? How noisy the MFT wide crop ends to be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markr041 Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 Ok, here you go - 4K 120P @1/250th shutter and ISO 2500 in very dim light (HDR😞 Now, in these settings where there are bright lights as well as big areas that are dark, one has to expose to avoid hotspots, so darker areas will be noisier. In a more uniformly lit area, one can expose for the shadows and get less noise. Emanuel 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emanuel Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 On 12/6/2022 at 9:52 PM, markr041 said: Ok, here you go - 4K 120P @1/250th shutter and ISO 2500 in very dim light (HDR😞 Now, in these settings where there are bright lights as well as big areas that are dark, one has to expose to avoid hotspots, so darker areas will be noisier. In a more uniformly lit area, one can expose for the shadows and get less noise. Thank you! Such "torture" test as you've called it : D has shown to declare some truth from very of its own... The locations and lit vs shadow areas picked by you follow the whole thing : ) However, I'd still be eager to find the same location(s) (because not every locations and light + dark/shadow circumstances challenge the capture device in the same way) and the noise obviously under different ISOs... from one end to another. Don't want to bug you with, if you'll be willing to offer though, that would be rather useful to everyone looking for buying the camera. Much appreciated, - EAG :- ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markr041 Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 Slow motion skateboarding in a holiday video: Makes use of the Sony E PZ 180105 lens as a video zoom lens that is mostly par focal. IronFilm 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emanuel Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 Do you remember the ISOs used on the slowmo shots (4K 120fps right?) for the minutes 00:03, 00:07, 00:30, 02:00, 02:26, 03:28, 03:46 (with artifacts more visible in the dark areas after 00:36, 02:08, 02:30, 03:32, 03:57)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markr041 Posted December 26, 2022 Share Posted December 26, 2022 Sony's best (?) APS-C zoom lens - the E 16-55mm f2.8 G lens. IronFilm 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markr041 Posted December 27, 2022 Share Posted December 27, 2022 The After Christmas Movie Really like the Sony E 16-55mm f2.8 G lens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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markr041 Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 I really like the Sony E 16-55mm f2.8 G lens. IronFilm 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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