Michael1 Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 I think if anything needed grading, it would be this video. Maybe they were trying to show what SLog2 looks like right out of the camera. The aliasing seems to be pretty much under control. Just saw a bit with the grates. Michael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viet Bach Bui Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 Looks quite soft to me. Looks quite alright to me. If sharpness was my number 1 concern then I would buy the GH4. But to me DR is more important and it seems the A7S delivers in spades in this area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pablogrollan Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 Looks quite soft to me. Only a few shoots look really soft to me... or should I say out of focus. Rest of the softness and aliasing maybe due to the video being 720p and played back full screen or the use of NDs since it was shot at 3200 ISO. Still, the video does need grading... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Andrew Reid Posted June 25, 2014 Administrators Share Posted June 25, 2014 New "test footage" shot in a hot and dry environment... Downloaded the 1080p version and there's nothing wrong with resolution from the camera... looks very sharply resolved to me. However the upload is too heavily compressed. A shame he did not upload it in ProRes LT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuickHitRecord Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 jgharding 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W. Ashley Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 New "test footage" shot in a hot and dry environment... Thanks every for watching. I was one of the lucky ones to get it early. I uploaded a new Prores version Jacek, GMaximus and jgharding 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgharding Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 Highlight recovery looks great! remind me of C300 ability to pull back the super white... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacek Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 Thanks every for watching. I was one of the lucky ones to get it early. I uploaded a new Prores version and you can get some of the raw s-log clips here: (for a limited time) Some Raw Footage Clips XAVC-S 50mbps 24P: http://mfilms.us/1nFKFhZ Thanks! Thanks for the clips! Really nice to play with in Resolve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richg101 Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 Highlight recovery looks great! remind me of C300 ability to pull back the super white... I have a feeling what we're seeing here is the qt gamma problem showing its ugly face again.. when avchd (and probably xavc s) are played back on premier on a mac, the recovery is simply being corrected (changing outputs from 15-235). Rather than extra information in the hot highlights actually being brought back. Though i hope I am wrong. jgharding 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgharding Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 I have a feeling what we're seeing here is the qt gamma problem showing its ugly face again.. when avchd (and probably xavc s) are played back on premier on a mac, the recovery is simply being corrected (changing outputs from 15-235). Rather than extra information in the hot highlights actually being brought back. Though i hope I am wrong. Ah yeah It could be that... I do hope it does allows white outside of "legal" though, cos with the Cxxx series I like to pop my highlights up there and pull 'em back in post, since I never deliver to broadcast directly. The QT gamma Mac/PC thing is really annoying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Administrators Andrew Reid Posted June 26, 2014 Administrators Share Posted June 26, 2014 Well the S-LOG 2 example shows you can save a shot if you're short of dynamic range in standard mode, but with some pretty bad noise in the shadows coming into play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Andrew Reid Posted June 26, 2014 Administrators Share Posted June 26, 2014 On the Tokyo monorail video the very wide lens makes the verticals lean back so not a good rolling shutter test by the way ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Wall Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 It's also shot at 60i. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Andrew Reid Posted June 26, 2014 Administrators Share Posted June 26, 2014 It's also shot at 60i. Doesn't look it. Description says 1080p / 60i so make of that what you will! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael1 Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 Interesting video. A lot of shots saved by grading. I would have liked to have seen what Std would have looked like graded for comparison. Michael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pablogrollan Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 Doesn't look it. Description says 1080p / 60i so make of that what you will! It does look like 60i uploaded to Youtube as 1080p. Look at the extreme aliasing (not even a 7D is that bad). More than aliasing is the result of showing fields rather than frames. I guess Youtube automatically tries to deinterlace the footage... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgharding Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 I watched the 4K footage on a retina MacBook the other day, and it's pretty stunning. This camera really does look good, The only issue could be the rolling shutter. I hope they've gotten it down to C100/C300 levels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacek Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 Well the S-LOG 2 example shows you can save a shot if you're short of dynamic range in standard mode, but with some pretty bad noise in the shadows coming into play. I tried grading "Arizona falls" (higher contrast, saturation, different WB) in Resolve and it looks very nice (thought I don't have much experience in grading). On first sight the noise in shadows does not look worse than GH4 4K flat profile graded and scaled to HD - I tried Philip Bloom's Seoul panorama files. Don't have big screen to pixel peep, so maybe I'm wrong.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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