gt3rs Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 6k 60P RAW 4k oversampled from 6k 4k 120P No time limit (so no 30min limit), can record up to 6h continuously CLog and CLog3 As always devil will be in the details..... https://drive.google.com/file/d/1zdfdmPXy1XDpoSdllbugt0ATg36gSJop/view Emanuel 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gt3rs Posted September 14, 2021 Author Share Posted September 14, 2021 Official press release: https://www.canonrumors.com/here-is-the-official-canon-usa-press-release-for-the-canon-eos-r3/ Emanuel 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Young Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 If they don't miraculously fuck it up with 1dxiii/R6 levels of rolling shutter and overheating this is a day one purchase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Young Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 https://drive.google.com/file/d/1jTgFe4xy9eRW53M727fsSgw0VibjNbrG/view Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBoogieKnight Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 22 minutes ago, Simon Young said: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1jTgFe4xy9eRW53M727fsSgw0VibjNbrG/view No 4k/120, only 1/200 mechanical flash sync and a micro HDMI? These aren't the real specs surely? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBoogieKnight Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 Ah, does have 4k 120 and video says no overheating! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newfoundmass Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 Doesn't sound like it can do RAW over HDMI anyway, so I don't think many people will be using the HDMI to record anyway though I still don't get why you'd use micro HDMI on such a beefy camera (other than Canon just doing Canon things.) Seems like the 6k is limited to RAW only. This will be way too expensive for my tastes, but it does seem like a very good camera for Canon users that need a true hybrid, assuming the image quality is good and rolling shutter isn't bad (no one can show the videos or pictures they recorded.) The stacked sensor should help with that though, I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Django Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 3 hours ago, Simon Young said: If they don't miraculously fuck it up with 1dxiii/R6 levels of rolling shutter and overheating this is a day one purchase. "The rolling shutter distortion is reduced to about 1/4th of that of the 1DX 3" 😅 If indeed this doesn't overheat this will be a no brainer purchase for me as well! By the way, the pdf link is no longer working, can someone re-upload? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Young Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 There are so many early tests published already, 6K raw doesn't overheat after more than 2h of continuous recording. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Django Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 Just saw the dpreview first impressions.. the rolling shutter is apparently double that of the photo mode so I guess twice as low as 1DX3 instead of 1/4 which is still pretty good. Jordan reports that he took the camera from Chris who was shooting stills for an hour and got an overheat warning after 4 minutes of 4K120p?!? Wtf... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Django Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 Well I guess according to that PDF on a "cold start": no overheat in 4K30p HQ. 60mn limit in 4K60p HQ. 12 minutes in 4K120p. 25-60mn in 6K RAW. Of course on a "hot start" those measurements will vary. So bottom line is they've improved substantially since R5 but we can't really say "no overheating". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Calabros Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 I want to be a troll for a moment and comment RIP Sony, but I resist. newfoundmass, Emanuel and Juank 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Video Hummus Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 Gordon Laing's video is the best. DPReview hardly told us anything. He shows samples of log video (un-graded) in clog3 and shows detailed 400% zoom chart tests to show detail in all the modes versus R5. It does look like the R3 is landing solidly in-between the R5 and A1 as far as quality and specs go. No 30 min record limit. Gordon got 6 hours of record time off external power source, 2h 12m off of internal battery shooting in 4K25p. With the new data hot shoe, IBIS, and DIS the R3 is shaping up to be a pretty capable video camera with plenty of room for R1 to flex. Also, setting white balance is now like all the other cameras. No more taking a picture and loading the white balance. Please bring this to R5! Simon Young 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newfoundmass Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 3 hours ago, Eric Calabros said: I want to be a troll for a moment and comment RIP Sony, but I resist. 🤣 People say this every time Canon releases a new camera and it never happens. Emanuel and Rinad Amir 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
androidlad Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 It's important to distinguish rolling shutter in photo mode (assisted by DRAM), and in video mode (direct ADC IO) In photo mode, R3 has a electronic shutter flash sync speed of 1/180s at 14bit, indicating a sensor readout speed higher than that. (A1 e-flash sync is 1/200s and sensor readout 1/250s at 14bit). This aligns with the official claim that the rolling shutter is about 1/4 of 1DX III (1/60s at 14bit). In video mode, the full sensor has a readout speed of 1/50s at 12bit, this enables a 16:9 crop of 6K at 60fps. Video Hummus 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gt3rs Posted September 14, 2021 Author Share Posted September 14, 2021 Hard to judge from YouTube video but from Gordon's video my feeling in term of sharpness: R3 4k 25 = R5 4k 25 HQ R5 8K 25 > R3 4k 25 R3 4k 25 > R5 4k 25 R3 4k 100 > R5 4k 100 Unfortunately no test for 4k 60 and no 6k RAW vs 8k RAW although I bet the R3 4k 60 > R5 and R5 8k RAW > R3. Rolling shutter seems like the R5 and A1 for video. Ready to bet for around 14ms for <= 60p Apparently there is no CLog only CLog3. 100 and 120 fps only conformed so no audio (why why why this is my biggest complain on the R5) Finally they got rid of this silly 30min limit..... I think I prefer to have 2 R5 than 1 R3..... maybe best would be to have 1 R5 and 1 R3 but $$$$ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSMW Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 48 minutes ago, gt3rs said: I think I prefer to have 2 R5 than 1 R3 I think I'd prefer 2 S1H both with R5 AF 😜 I may watch a review or two later out of pure professional curiosity, but the R3 isn't of any interest to me as a purchase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emanuel Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 Yes, there are tools for motion picture much more affordable today :- ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herein2020 Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 Pretty cool release, I haven't seen a detailed spec chart yet but curious if they stuck with 4:2:2 10bit for video or if you can drop down to 4:2:0 10bit, also I assume it will support dual slot recording for the modes that will support the SD card's lower data rate throughput, and without dual gain ISO it remains to be seen if this is as clean at 4000ISO as the Panasonic S series bodies. Also, it has the accessory hotshoe so it will work with the Tascam XLR adapter so another plus. 4K120FPS is great as well, I've started wishing I had that in the Panasonic S5. Fortunately for my wallet, I don't need any of the high speed photography features that this offers so I will sit this one out. I will admit, with every release Canon gets closer to my dream camera but its still not quite there yet. The shutter sync speed is disappointing, it does not have an integrated wireless flash controller like the S5, no dual gain ISO like the S5, and no word on if it will support a WFM to assist with exposing CLOG or CLOG3. The rumored release of the R5c next year might interest me but what it would take to get me to switch back to Canon for video or buy a MILC Canon body for photography keeps growing. For me the perfect camera would be: Canon's AF capabilities Dual gain ISO or at least as clean as the S5 at 4000ISO XLR adapter for run and gun XLR audio Flash sync speed 1/320s or higher Integrated wireless flash trigger (at least 4 channels) WFM for exposing LOG Monitoring LUT for shooting LOG False Color LUT in camera Backwards compatibility with EF mount 4:2:0 10bit H.265 codec Up to 4K120FPS Dual slot video recording Dual slots with both slots the same memory card type (SD preferred) At least 30min with no overheating at 4K60FPS At least 24MP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ntblowz Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 6K60P raw is the same bit rate as 8K30p raw on R5, but I take 6K60P anytime over 8K30p. I was thinking of getting a Ninja V+ so I can have 5K60P raw, but with the price of Ninja V+ and R5 it is near the realm of R3.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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