TomTheDP Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 1 hour ago, IronFilm said: You can count on one hand (with fingers left over!) the current cinema available with a global shutter. It is zero surprise, and zero deal breaker, when a camera is released without a global shutter. That's normal. A fast readout is an expectation these days at least for me. Yes not global shutter but fast enough where it's not noticeable is somewhat important. Its becoming a reality with the RED Komodo and FX6/A7S3, I hope the trend continues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matins 2 Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 Even the 13 year old Panasonic HDC-SD9 has global shutter. TomTheDP 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newfoundmass Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 On 7/16/2021 at 5:23 PM, Matins 2 said: ~$4,000 for a camera without global shutter? Wow. I really don't know many people that care about global shutter anymore. It used to be something we all dreamed about but read out speeds have increased dramatically that it's not even a concern for most people. What are you filming that needs a global shutter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomTheDP Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 38 minutes ago, newfoundmass said: I really don't know many people that care about global shutter anymore. It used to be something we all dreamed about but read out speeds have increased dramatically that it's not even a concern for most people. What are you filming that needs a global shutter? Yeah honestly I've never really noticed rolling shutter outside of flash photography at weddings. The one time I've noticed it is shooting out of a moving car, stuff can get slanted 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barefoot_dp Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 On 7/17/2021 at 7:23 AM, Matins 2 said: ~$4,000 for a camera without global shutter? Wow. Nobody tell him what an Alexa LF costs! IronFilm and Matins 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronFilm Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 Or even worse, what a Sony F35 cost back in the day! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trek of Joy Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 On 7/16/2021 at 4:39 AM, Oliver Daniel said: In my opinion the A7S3 is the best camera you can buy on a price / quality / features ratio. It's so versatile and really fun to shoot with. You can focus more on the story and worry less about the gear. Honestly, I think it's one of the best releases we've seen in terms of cameras, ever. It speaks volumes about how many people moaned about the camera being "too safe" - what? They absolutely smashed it and gave us way more than expected. Do people want the camera to fry their eggs too? 😂 They need to merge the cameras completely, get the EVF flipping up, increase the screen size and deliver an even more robust and sexy 4k image. That will be the one. Agreed. I really like shooting with the a7sIII, it just makes getting the shot so effortless and I love the image. Handling is the best of any Sony body to date. They nailed the ergos. I added the smallrig cage and Nitze top handle - overall its a nice little package that's easy to add a monitor, mics or whatever. Class leading AF, low rolling shutter, 10-bit color, great in low light, and 120fps is everything I need in a camera. Its great handheld, on sticks or on a gimbal. I do wish Sony would get the WB in custom modes sorted since I have my 1/2/3 set for fast switching between 24/60/120p. Internal ND's and a bigger/brighter LCD would be nice on a beefed up FX3 - maybe a FX4? I've used it a lot since it was released, I'm still really happy with the camera and not lusting after anything else for video - except maybe the a1 since I shoot a lot of stills and would love 50mp LOL! Looking forward to what the a7IV brings as the a7III is now mostly for photo's and my b-cam or backup to the a7sIII. Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matins 2 Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 4 hours ago, IronFilm said: Or even worse, what a Sony F35 cost back in the day! CCD, global shutter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronFilm Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 @Matins 2 and now you know what the cost of a high quality global shutter cinema camera can be. Good news for you though, their price has dropped massively on eBay! You might pick one up now for only sub US$5K with some luck. (then start adding on all the costs of all the extras...) Or here is a Sony SRW-9000PL for sub US$4K: https://www.ebay.com/itm/154268601736 Actually, I'll start being serious for a moment, as I just noticed how much the Sony F55 (global shutter!) have continued to drop. You can get one here for just US$5.5K: https://www.ebay.com/itm/124658333277 And if you'd prefer an OLED viewfinder instead, here is another Sony F55 for only slightly more: https://www.ebay.com/itm/324443097872 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Django Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 I had a go at the FX3 and yes finally a Sony mirrorless body I felt comfortable with! The build quality is also a step up and the added air vent is reassuring. I could see myself switching back to Sony from Canon with this body. Paired with a FX/FS cine cam it would be a very strong combo for my line of work. Juank, Snowfun and Trek of Joy 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matins 2 Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 13 hours ago, IronFilm said: @Matins 2 and now you know what the cost of a high quality global shutter cinema camera can be. Good news for you though, their price has dropped massively on eBay! You might pick one up now for only sub US$5K with some luck. (then start adding on all the costs of all the extras...) Or here is a Sony SRW-9000PL for sub US$4K: https://www.ebay.com/itm/154268601736 Actually, I'll start being serious for a moment, as I just noticed how much the Sony F55 (global shutter!) have continued to drop. You can get one here for just US$5.5K: https://www.ebay.com/itm/124658333277 And if you'd prefer an OLED viewfinder instead, here is another Sony F55 for only slightly more: https://www.ebay.com/itm/324443097872 I'd say that a new decent CCD-based RAW-shooting camera with the size of an FX3 shouldn't have to cost tens of thousands of dollars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronFilm Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 CCD has so so so many drawbacks to it, that you won't find any modern cinema cameras using it! The only semi recent example was the DB16. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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