TomTheDP Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 9 hours ago, IronFilm said: Getting something like a Panasonic GF5 (or similar kind of camera body that is just fifty bucks on eBay) for your kid? And the S5 for you! ^^^^^ Sounds like potentially the best plan. I am potentially thinking about getting a GH4 or G7 as a B-cam now. I wonder if Sage's Alexa lut would work decently well with the older Cine-D IronFilm 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newfoundmass Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 14 hours ago, Mark Romero 2 said: Well... I really like the image from VLOG and having more flexibility in post, but that is mostly for my real estate videos where I have basically NO control over the lighting and color casts. I guess I should try shooting some other things in 8-bit on the S1 so I have an idea of what 8-bit would be like on the S5. I really only film in 10 bit when I am doing commercial or narrative stuff where I'll push the image hard. 8 bit is more than enough for basic little tweaks for my corporate and event work. I love 10 bit, it's why I went with the GH5 to begin with, but I think a lot of people/projects don't really need it. Most clients don't see the difference anyway! Maybe I'm just being silly though! IronFilm and Mark Romero 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Romero 2 Posted November 20, 2020 Author Share Posted November 20, 2020 1 hour ago, newfoundmass said: I really only film in 10 bit when I am doing commercial or narrative stuff where I'll push the image hard. 8 bit is more than enough for basic little tweaks for my corporate and event work. I love 10 bit, it's why I went with the GH5 to begin with, but I think a lot of people/projects don't really need it. Most clients don't see the difference anyway! Maybe I'm just being silly though! I appreciate your thoughts and experience on this. I guess my concern is how much I can tweak things later if I don't nail the color balance, or if I really have to deal with a heavy blue cast from window lighting, or avoiding color shift if I really have to raise the shadows a bit. I am much more of a ham-fisted colorist than a perfectionist, so the appeal of 10-bit is not so much that I am going to create a masterpiece of color, but more like I have a bit more of a safety net when i mess things up on location. So in certain respects, a BMPCC6K would appeal to me because of BRAW (since I edit in Resolve anyway). But the ergonomics and lack of photo ability makes it less appealing. newfoundmass 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomTheDP Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 3 minutes ago, Mark Romero 2 said: I appreciate your thoughts and experience on this. I guess my concern is how much I can tweak things later if I don't nail the color balance, or if I really have to deal with a heavy blue cast from window lighting, or avoiding color shift if I really have to raise the shadows a bit. I am much more of a ham-fisted colorist than a perfectionist, so the appeal of 10-bit is not so much that I am going to create a masterpiece of color, but more like I have a bit more of a safety net when i mess things up on location. So in certain respects, a BMPCC6K would appeal to me because of BRAW (since I edit in Resolve anyway). But the ergonomics and lack of photo ability makes it less appealing. Its also as expensive as an S5 with larger files. Mark Romero 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Romero 2 Posted November 20, 2020 Author Share Posted November 20, 2020 1 minute ago, TomTheDP said: Its also as expensive as an S5 with larger files. Yes, same price with half the pleasure... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Romero 2 Posted November 20, 2020 Author Share Posted November 20, 2020 The other, other option is to just keep the a6500, use the Open Memories no record limit tweak, shoot in Cine 4 (8 bit) and try to match Cine D on the S1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronFilm Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 19 hours ago, Mark Romero 2 said: I appreciate your thoughts and experience on this. I guess my concern is how much I can tweak things later if I don't nail the color balance, or if I really have to deal with a heavy blue cast from window lighting, or avoiding color shift if I really have to raise the shadows a bit. I am much more of a ham-fisted colorist than a perfectionist, so the appeal of 10-bit is not so much that I am going to create a masterpiece of color, but more like I have a bit more of a safety net when i mess things up on location. So in certain respects, a BMPCC6K would appeal to me because of BRAW (since I edit in Resolve anyway). But the ergonomics and lack of photo ability makes it less appealing. Just back yourself more to nail it right (or near enough) on set! 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ac6000cw Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 On 11/20/2020 at 7:13 AM, IronFilm said: Getting something like a Panasonic GF5 (or similar kind of camera body that is just fifty bucks on eBay) for your kid? And the S5 for you! ...or a Panasonic G5 for very little more money (if we're going 'bargain basement' cameras). It has better on-board audio, better controls, a viewfinder, a tilt-swivel LCD, better battery life and is nicer to hold. I've owned both in the past. The only advantage the GF5 has over the G5 is the smaller size and the 130g lighter weight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronFilm Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 1 hour ago, ac6000cw said: ...or a Panasonic G5 for very little more money It is a slippery slope! For only slightly more money than a G5 you could get a G6 😉 Which is a greatly improved camera. But if you're going to buy a G6 then why not spend just a teeny bit more for a G7? And get 4K! But then a G85.... aaa123jc and newfoundmass 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomTheDP Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 Just now, IronFilm said: It is a slippery slope! For only slightly more money than a G5 you could get a G6 😉 Which is a greatly improved camera. But if you're going to buy a G6 then why not spend just a teeny bit more for a G7? And get 4K! But then a G85.... Just get a GH2! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronFilm Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 On 11/22/2020 at 7:26 AM, TomTheDP said: Just get a GH2! Nah, GH1! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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