odie Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 noted a few films in Sundance…some shot on Arri Alexa…some shot on Super 16mm…after talking to the producers …it seems super 16mm is a cheap way to get that Arri Alexa look…reporting what is said here at the festival..in Sundance 2014 odie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrad Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 That's a ridiculous notion. Ernesto Mantaras and Sean Cunningham 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Cunningham Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 First mistake: talking to producers about cameras or technology. There's some great Super-16mm stuff out there. I really liked what Phil Parmet did with the format in Rob Zombie's The Devil's Rejects. The AMC broadcast for The Walking Dead looks like ass but on BD it's also a good looking show. But there's nothing about the look that says "Alexa". For an unscientific but very interesting and aesthetically-oriented test of several cameras, including Arri Alexa and S16, see John Brawley's "Available Light" test: ...35mm (Aaton), Arri Alexa, RED MX, Sony F3 and Canon EOS 1DmkIV. nahua 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ebrahim Saadawi Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 Incorrect really... the aesthetic difference between the two is quite significant, even to the average film consumer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richg101 Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 But it's film. And the digital camera that best mimics film is the Alexa. So in effect it makes perfect sense. Thing is, I imagine current film stock prices, and transfer costs probably bring shooting 16mm up to the same total cost as shooting on a hired Alexa? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richg101 Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 @Burnett - I thought The Devils Rejects was shot on 35mm. Just checked imbd and sure enough it says 16mm. The movie looks superb. It looks more like how I consider 'Hollywood' than most big movies shot on Alexa. I think I'll watch it tonight actually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Cunningham Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 It's pretty soft and grainy, The Devil's Rejects, but I like that. Zombie was going for a rough and vintage, grindhouse aesthetic without going kitschy and Tarantino/Rodriguez with it. His Halloween remake was quite a bit more slick as far as photography goes with the first being 35mm and the sequel being perhaps the slickest 16mm film I've ever seen. Perhaps that's what you're thinking of? And then you have the gorgeous Lords of Salem which, oddly enough, is RED but lensed with C-Series, E-Series and Primo anamorphics which is nice "usual suspects" of glass for pretty anamorphic films. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odie Posted January 27, 2014 Author Share Posted January 27, 2014 But it's film. And the digital camera that best mimics film is the Alexa. So in effect it makes perfect sense. Thing is, I imagine current film stock prices, and transfer costs probably bring shooting 16mm up to the same total cost as shooting on a hired Alexa? +1 this is something that was also said at the festival by dps and directors…I think they keep the cost down with shooting ratio..and owning the 16mm camera..no rentals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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