Emanuel Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 Coming from here and there: Here's a focusing copycat comparative field test by the rather interesting Tom Antos' review: Dual Lav mics system advantage over other solutions out there such as these ones, David @IronFilm? In any case heavier than these two, isn't it? https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1472750-REG/azden_pro_xr_2_4ghz_digital_wireless_microphone.html/specs https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1072850-REG/senal_aws_2000_a_advanced_wireless_microphone.html Any other shortcomings as nonlocking connectors for the Azden or lack of dual lav mics offer for both of them I guess? Any other lighter ones to compare with? greenscreen 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinegain Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 Since Comica got a mention there... at IBC they had something in the works that was on display that seemed a 3D printed prototype. Not sure if that was the WD01, might've been, but that's been around on Amazon since July already apparently. $139 bucks. Probably not very high-end tho. Emanuel 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mako Sports Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 Sony UWP D21/D11 probably the best prosumer system. Sennheiser G4 if your okay with an analog only system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newfoundmass Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 Budget wireless really depends on your uses. A lot of people will bash budget options because they don't match the performance of higher end options, but for really basic stuff they're often fine. I have an Azden system that's under $200 (I got them on sale a couple years ago for $129 on B&H) and I've had virtually no problems with them, but I also have only used them in situations that fell well below what their specs say they're capable of in terms of distance. I did use them in a venue Friday that had about 300 people all using cell phones and had no problems with interference even though they're 2.4ghz. That made me happy! I'd say if you're within 25 to 50 feet of your camera/recorder and with a relatively clear line of sight you can get away with using a lot of the budget systems. Your mileage will vary when it comes to audio quality (that though often has to do with the mics that come with those systems and can be remedied with nicer ones.) Currently I have the aforementioned Azden XD system and a Sennheiser XSW set. Both are under $300; the Sennheiser is quite nice, though unfortunately doesn't allow you to limit the output so it runs too hot for my GH5, which won't allow me to lower my preamps any lower. I've looked into getting the Sony UWP D11. You can find some good deals on them used. My biggest fear is buying a more pricey system only for the frequencies to longer be useable as they get purchased by private companies or phased out, but that might be an irrational fear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trek of Joy Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 Been using a Sennheiser G3 for years. They can be had cheap now as the current model is the G4. Got the lav, handheld and XLR plug-in for my shotgun. Its been all over the world, thoroughly abused and still works perfect. Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzynormal Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 2 hours ago, Trek of Joy said: Been using a Sennheiser G3 for years. They can be had cheap now as the current model is the G4. Got the lav, handheld and XLR plug-in for my shotgun. Its been all over the world, thoroughly abused and still works perfect. Chris Same. Rugged stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotchtape Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 Is there something wrong with the Deity Wireless Connect system? Seemed pretty affordable and I haven't heard anything bad about them (also haven't been looking at getting anything new for a while). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mako Sports Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 2 hours ago, scotchtape said: Is there something wrong with the Deity Wireless Connect system? Seemed pretty affordable and I haven't heard anything bad about them (also haven't been looking at getting anything new for a while). Still some issues with 2.4ghz systems Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotchtape Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 Got the email from BH today, Sennheiser G4 on sale for $450 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lux Shots Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 I've been using the Saramonic system reviewed above (UwMic9) for some time and it works great! Has excellent range and pretty good battery life! I mostly use it for weddings and interviews. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EphraimP Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 Not s On 11/5/2019 at 12:43 PM, scotchtape said: Got the email from BH today, Sennheiser G4 on sale for $450 I've been kicking around getting the G4. I trash all my promo email frequently, so I didn't see the B&H sale. On the website, they are showing up at full price. Was it a flash sale or something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zerocool22 Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 On 11/5/2019 at 9:43 PM, scotchtape said: Got the email from BH today, Sennheiser G4 on sale for $450 fml, got one 6 months ago. (used it twice) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotchtape Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 13 hours ago, EphraimP said: Not s I've been kicking around getting the G4. I trash all my promo email frequently, so I didn't see the B&H sale. On the website, they are showing up at full price. Was it a flash sale or something? Expired 19/11/6, required promo code that i'm assuming is unique. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EphraimP Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 1 hour ago, scotchtape said: Expired 19/11/6, required promo code that i'm assuming is unique. Typical. That's a bummer. I see that the version with the cardioid lav mic, the ME 4, is bundled with a $100 B&H gift card, so it's at least somewhat discounted. But I've seen some pretty negative reviews of it. Anyone had experience with either the M2 II or the ME 4, or both? I'm wondering if B&H is willing to discount the ME 4s because they didn't sell well. Maybe it will drop down again during holiday/end of year sales. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronFilm Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 On 11/5/2019 at 8:43 AM, scotchtape said: Is there something wrong with the Deity Wireless Connect system? Seemed pretty affordable and I haven't heard anything bad about them (also haven't been looking at getting anything new for a while). Am going to get one myself soon, so I can report back some personal findings. One of my good buddies who is also a local sound mixer, really likes it himself. On 11/5/2019 at 11:00 AM, Mako Sports said: Still some issues with 2.4ghz systems Such as? I can't think of anything notable about Deity Connect Wireless which has been reported as an issue with 2.4GHz Remember "2.4GHz" is simply a frequency, and there are many many MANY different ways to implement how it is used. It is like saying "UHF is bad" just because you had a few bad experiences with a UHF system, or heard some reported, doesn't mean all UHF is bad. 7 hours ago, EphraimP said: Typical. That's a bummer. I see that the version with the cardioid lav mic, the ME 4, is bundled with a $100 B&H gift card, so it's at least somewhat discounted. But I've seen some pretty negative reviews of it. Anyone had experience with either the M2 II or the ME 4, or both? I'm wondering if B&H is willing to discount the ME 4s because they didn't sell well. Don't get a cardioid lav mic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EphraimP Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 47 minutes ago, IronFilm said: Am going to get one myself soon, so I can report back some personal findings. One of my good buddies who is also a local sound mixer, really likes it himself. Such as? I can't think of anything notable about Deity Connect Wireless which has been reported as an issue with 2.4GHz Remember "2.4GHz" is simply a frequency, and there are many many MANY different ways to implement how it is used. It is like saying "UHF is bad" just because you had a few bad experiences with a UHF system, or heard some reported, doesn't mean all UHF is bad. Don't get a cardioid lav mic Why not a cardioid lav mic? I ask because I'm trying to learn as much about sound as possible. Also, I'll be very curious to hear what you have to say about the Deity Connect system. I was originally planning to by it because of it's cost to value ratio and because I've been pretty happy with my S-Mic 2. I thought I've read some negative comments about the Connect system on the board and also several recommendations not to buy the first version of a Deity product because they come to market without all the bugs worked out and the second generation is always better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newfoundmass Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 1 hour ago, EphraimP said: Why not a cardioid lav mic? I ask because I'm trying to learn as much about sound as possible. Also, I'll be very curious to hear what you have to say about the Deity Connect system. I was originally planning to by it because of it's cost to value ratio and because I've been pretty happy with my S-Mic 2. I thought I've read some negative comments about the Connect system on the board and also several recommendations not to buy the first version of a Deity product because they come to market without all the bugs worked out and the second generation is always better. IronFilm I think knows better than me but... omni lavs generally have more natural sounds. Cardioid can also have issues if not properly placed on the subject since they're more directional. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronFilm Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 On 11/8/2019 at 2:47 PM, EphraimP said: Why not a cardioid lav mic? I ask because I'm trying to learn as much about sound as possible. Once you've placed your lav mic, then you've basically got no control over its placement whatsoever (unlike a boom mic you're swinging which you can tweak during the take constantly). Not a good thing for a cardioid, as you'll suffer worse from when your talent goes off axis. Additionally cardioid lav mics suffer more from wind / handling noise. It is very very very very rare to see a cardioid lav mic in use. On 11/8/2019 at 2:47 PM, EphraimP said: also several recommendations not to buy the first version of a Deity product because they come to market without all the bugs worked out and the second generation is always better. Meh, you could say the same about many other products/brands though! For example Sound Devices is a very well respected brand, yet they had a few stuff ups with their First Generation of the MixPre series. On 11/8/2019 at 2:47 PM, EphraimP said: I was originally planning to by it because of it's cost to value ratio and because I've been pretty happy with my S-Mic 2. If you're buying new then I think you probably can't beat if for value for money in this price bracket. To do better you need to go secondhand, such as Sony UWP-D11 or Lectro 200 series Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotchtape Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 BH having UWP on sale with plug on transmitter for $500. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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