FilmMan Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 For those interested. Check this link. Good stuff on this website. Link to contrast handling for the 7 cameras in the heading. Lot's of info on other aspects too - search thru. http://www.cinematography.net/edited-pages/NZCS-Contrast.html gloopglop and ScreensPro 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScreensPro Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 and people wonder why Alexa is so popular? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgharding Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 Alexa is the best, beatific detail, clean gain and shadows due to dual gain-stage sensor readout, lovely grain, no magenta blowout like Epic, no plastic sharp look like F65... They nailed it. Would be great to see 5D MKiii raw added to the list. gloopglop 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damphousse Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 I am an amateur so please forgive the ignorance. Does anyone know the settings they used? To me the BMCC samples seem like they are darker than the other cameras. The third images on both the Canons is unacceptable. But the third image on the BMCC is okay. The highlights aren't totally f'ed up which is nice but the darker values are still below what we see in the Canons and Alexa in row one. Anyone else notice this? F55 seems to be doing the same thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmcindie Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 That test seems a bit flawed because every camera has different shadow/highlight retention. It's all about where the middlepoint is. I also find it odd how the Epic is so pink and the F65 should have excellent highlight handling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgharding Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 The magenta thing is an Epic trait, unfortunately. It can really throw off skin. If you're not pushing ISO and everything is well controlled it's fine, but that tone is a quirk of it.especially as you clip. I've not used F65 yet though I've handled some footage. It's very very sharp, which isn't really my bag. I don't know much about the DR or highlights though. The C500 is a bit of a mis-step, I don't know anyone who uses them or has them for hire. Here's an example of why, plus you can't get away with skimping on features at the top end. The C500 is supposed to be their flagship camera, but only does 50 Mbps (CBR) 4:2:2 422P 8-BIT internally. That's nothing short of insulting, considering the market they were supposedly aiming for. Everything else requires an external recorder. It's not a significant step up from C300 and too fiddly to replace Ared One or Epic hire. It seems like Canon are obsessed with 8-bit, like fast big storage just doesn't exist. Now the Arri Amira is coming out, I'm happy to ignore the C500 completely, hopefully use Amira on most jobs that used to be C300. Go to 5:49 in this video and look how bad the C300 looks from the 4K output raw compared to the arri. it's no contest: https://vimeo.com/77715062 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgharding Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 In fact I'm currently working with Epic footage, and the magenta cast is playing havoc with it.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmcindie Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 Go to 5:49 in this video and look how bad the C300 looks from the 4K output raw compared to the arri. it's no contest: https://vimeo.com/77715062 Ehrm. I thought it looked very nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgharding Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 One man's meat is another man's poison eh? ;) There's something for every taste in camera land! FilmMan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilmMan Posted November 2, 2013 Author Share Posted November 2, 2013 One man's meat is another man's poison eh? ;) There's something for every taste in camera land! Well said. Cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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