thephoenix Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 skip changed his forum name ? ? since when do you need a license to have 24p in a camera ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castorp Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 23 hours ago, Adam Kuźniar said: you're mistaking hate with making fun of which is justified The lack of 24p is funny because it's literally one frame less than 25p which you can shoot. So what about 24p makes it impossible to write? Nothing. It's entirely doable. They've done it in the past. They can do it now. Why isn't it there then? Because they're stupid. And this is why we're making fun of Canon. I don’t know if I would say Canon are stupid. Or Nikon or Sony or Panasonic or any other.These are very big companies consisting of large amounts of people that make a lot of effort when planning these products. Its more funny to me actually that there is a culture of online behaviour (mostly the big youtubers) of single persons that believe they better understand the market than for example Canon, that no doubt make extensive market research and have a large number of pros come with input. I mean, why don’t you apply for a job at Canon? Since they’re so incompetent I mean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liork Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 Oh God, from the specs sheet, the video files are still being cut into 4GB pieces... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Andrew Reid Posted August 21, 2019 Administrators Share Posted August 21, 2019 1 hour ago, liork said: Oh God, from the specs sheet, the video files are still being cut into 4GB pieces... LOL. No ExFat support in 2019. 1 hour ago, Castorp said: Its more funny to me actually that there is a culture of online behaviour (mostly the big youtubers) of single persons that believe they better understand the market than for example Canon Well considering Canon's sales chart looks like an olympic ski slope at the moment, I'd say their understanding of the market is somewhat "2009" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkabi Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 2 hours ago, Castorp said: Its more funny to me actually that there is a culture of online behaviour (mostly the big youtubers) of single persons that believe they better understand the market than for example Canon, that no doubt make extensive market research and have a large number of pros come with input. I mean, why don’t you apply for a job at Canon? Since they’re so incompetent I mean. Here is the problem with that argument, and many people have made that same argument.... in one version or another. So you are are saying Canon has this "extensive market research [team] and have a large number of pros come with input" and the end product of all that is something like the EOS R or the EOS RP.... The problem with that statement is that companies like Sony, Panasonic, Fuji, Blackmagic also have extensive market research teams and pros telling them what the people want.... why is it that they are able to turn out stuff like the a7III, S1/S1H, XT3, P6K??? Shell64 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Kuźniar Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 2 hours ago, Castorp said: I mean, why don’t you apply for a job at Canon? Since they’re so incompetent I mean. auch dude 2 hours ago, Castorp said: These are very big companies consisting of large amounts of people that make a lot of effort when planning these products. You're giving them way too much credit man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Django Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 newsflash.. camera companies segment their products! while canon may be more obvious at doing so, all others do it as well. fuji only does IBIS on XH series, panasonic released S1 with crippled audio, Sony keeps low bitrate codecs on alpha series to protect XDCAM line. etc while removing 24p as a R&D cost saving feature is simply a ludicrous theory, some other limitations may well be hardware barriers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shell64 Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 *Panasonic G7 has no clean HDMI while recording Panasonic G series has low bitrate HD Every camera can spit out RAW dng (uncompressed b/c compressed is patiented) but almost all camera companies simply remove that code. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajay Posted August 22, 2019 Author Share Posted August 22, 2019 Canon = Kodak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleBobsPhotography Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 The only other reason I can see for omitting 24p would be to keep the user interface cleaner. It's a quite poor reason, but I can see how UX designers who are not into filmmaking prefer sticking with PAL/NTFS/high framerate recording. Personally I'm more interested in whether it has full sensor readout. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liork Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 Dropping 24p to make UX cleaner? People here should go work for Canon "Excuses Department". Why do you even bother justifying Canon for screwing things? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The ghost of squig Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 30p only according to the brochure for Australia and New Zealand (PAL countries) Brilliant! just brilliant! ?? https://www.canonrumors.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/EOS-90D-Tech-Sheet.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercer Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 14 minutes ago, The ghost of squig said: 30p only according to the brochure for Australia and New Zealand (PAL countries) Brilliant! just brilliant! ?? https://www.canonrumors.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/EOS-90D-Tech-Sheet.pdf I saw that too but they also only listed 120p for Full HD... so maybe this is just an instance where they omitted the words “up to” for some strange reason? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ntblowz Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 1 hour ago, mercer said: I saw that too but they also only listed 120p for Full HD... so maybe this is just an instance where they omitted the words “up to” for some strange reason? The canon sold here have all the frame rate.. like panasonic, sony sold here do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenger 2.0 Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 Quote The menu screen on the 90D for enabling "4K movie cropping," which includes this warning: "When using 4K movie cropping, camera temp. becomes too high both when shoot. and in standby. Movie rec. may not be possible." That language suggests that shooting cropped 4K runs the risk of overheating. Yet uncropped 4K should place even greater demands on the processor and the sensor. So how could this camera shoot uncropped 4K without overheating yet run the risk of overheating when shooting the less-demanding cropped 4K? The only way that makes sense is if the uncropped 4K is not really 4K. Found this somewhere. Suggest indeed that Canon uncropped 4k isn't really 4k but lower res upscaled to 4k. After the soft canon 1080p we get soft canon 4k ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Andrew Reid Posted August 28, 2019 Administrators Share Posted August 28, 2019 On 8/22/2019 at 3:14 AM, ajay said: Canon = Kodak. Canon CEO probably has a Nokia in one pocket and Blackberry in the other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Bowgett Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 9 hours ago, Avenger 2.0 said: Found this somewhere. Suggest indeed that Canon uncropped 4k isn't really 4k but lower res upscaled to 4k. After the soft canon 1080p we get soft canon 4k ? Given the sensor resolution (6960x4649) they're most likely doing a 2:1 pixel bin, which would give a horizontal resolution of 3.48k. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Hill Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 10 hours ago, Avenger 2.0 said: Found this somewhere. Suggest indeed that Canon uncropped 4k isn't really 4k but lower res upscaled to 4k. After the soft canon 1080p we get soft canon 4k ? Small print at 1:10 in the video says 4k through "video processing." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRealOG Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 Just spoke with a Canon Rep in my local camera shop. He says that there will be 30, 60 and 120FPS in HD.. It's essentially the EOS RP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thephoenix Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 4k full sensor readout 32.5MP APS-C CMOS Sensor DIGIC 8 Image Processor UHD 4K30p & Full HD 120p Video Recording 3″ 1.04m-Dot Vari-Angle Touchscreen LCD 45-Point All Cross-Type AF System Dual Pixel CMOS AF with 5481 AF Points Up to 10-fps Shooting, ISO 100-25600 Built-In Wi-Fi and Bluetooth EOS iTR AF, Electronic Shutter Function 220,000-Pixel AE Metering Sensor Price (body only): $1,199 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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