deezid Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 Made to eliminate gamut clipping issues in the first place, but also eliminates the brown cast of BMD Film V4 for the BMPCC 4K and 6K (soon), provides a nicer roll-off for skin, red lights, tungsten, blue lights etc, fixes incorrect color and targets IPP2 Soft Rec709 conversion. A BMD FILM V4 to RedWideGamutRGB/RedLog3G10 conversion to work with inside a native IPP2 workflow is included as well. Pocket 6K version coming soon: More information: http://55media.net/55m-p4k-color/ funkyou86, heart0less and Emanuel 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deezid Posted August 21, 2019 Author Share Posted August 21, 2019 Here's a highlight roll-off comparison between Buttery Natural V3 Lut, BMD Film V4 Extended Lut, The+One+Lut and 55M Advanced Lut - in no particular order. Which one do you think is which and what do you prefer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emanuel Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 B in the first series row, D of Dennis for the last one : -) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deezid Posted August 21, 2019 Author Share Posted August 21, 2019 Just now, Emanuel said: B in the first series row, D of Dennis for the last one : -) The order never changes Also RED IPP2 was the target not standard Sony color and their roll-off ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emanuel Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 3 minutes ago, deezid said: The order never changes Eventually but results vary under different combos... Circumstances also play a role ; -) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The ghost of squig Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 D. B looks OK too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deezid Posted August 21, 2019 Author Share Posted August 21, 2019 Just now, Emanuel said: Eventually but results vary... ; -) ARRI and RED do roll-off their highlights properly though , that means desaturated, ARRI even more than RED Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanielVranic Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 I do the CST in Resolve of Linear-LogC and that has given me the best highlight roll-off ever. Not a single LUT i have tried has gotten close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deezid Posted August 21, 2019 Author Share Posted August 21, 2019 1 hour ago, DanielVranic said: I do the CST in Resolve of Linear-LogC and that has given me the best highlight roll-off ever. Not a single LUT i have tried has gotten close. Well, I can debunk that claim. The Lut does a bit more than just a simple Color Space Transform to ARRI Log C to Rec709 Also color is way more accurate with it. BRAW Linear Gamma -> ARRI LOG C (CST) -> ARRI Rec709 (LUT) BRAW Linear Gamma -> ARRI LOG C (CST) Sat Mapping -> ARRI Rec709 (LUT) BRAW BMD FILM V4 -> 55M Advanced Lut Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The ghost of squig Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 9 hours ago, The ghost of squig said: D. B looks OK too. Strike that, reverse it. The 55M Advanced Lut looks spot on. Are you using an IR filter in daylight? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deezid Posted August 22, 2019 Author Share Posted August 22, 2019 Just now, The ghost of squig said: Strike that, reverse it. The 55M Advanced Lut looks spot on. Are you using an IR filter in daylight? I actually do. Even in tungsten. Most of these samples shown are without an IR cut filter though, so I made the Lut with some IR filtration in post - but without making dark skin gray or even green like others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The ghost of squig Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, deezid said: I actually do. Even in tungsten. Most of these samples shown are without an IR cut filter though, so I made the Lut with some IR filtration in post - but without making dark skin gray or even green like others. Hoya ProNDs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deezid Posted August 22, 2019 Author Share Posted August 22, 2019 Just now, The ghost of squig said: Hoya ProNDs? Hoya UV&IR cut Haida VariND Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The ghost of squig Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 6 minutes ago, deezid said: Haida VariND Scary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deezid Posted August 22, 2019 Author Share Posted August 22, 2019 Just now, The ghost of squig said: Scary. Why, after going with all these mediocre to bad Tiffen, Heliopan, Genus etc... VariND filters I finally found a good one. Tried B+W as well but didn't notice any big difference justifying its price tag nor lack of stronger ND steps. Emanuel 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanielVranic Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 19 hours ago, deezid said: Well, I can debunk that claim. The Lut does a bit more than just a simple Color Space Transform to ARRI Log C to Rec709 Also color is way more accurate with it. BRAW Linear Gamma -> ARRI LOG C (CST) -> ARRI Rec709 (LUT) BRAW Linear Gamma -> ARRI LOG C (CST) Sat Mapping -> ARRI Rec709 (LUT) BRAW BMD FILM V4 -> 55M Advanced Lut Did you decode as Linear first? I find this benefits all camera and technical LUT's, so maybe send me 1-2 second raw file lets put it to the test. Can't debunk based on no evidence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deezid Posted August 22, 2019 Author Share Posted August 22, 2019 2 hours ago, DanielVranic said: Did you decode as Linear first? I find this benefits all camera and technical LUT's, so maybe send me 1-2 second raw file lets put it to the test. Can't debunk based on no evidence Of course I did, here are the settings used. Attached is the Braw file A001_03192101_C073_320.braw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanielVranic Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 My Linear conversion looks different than yours..? mercer, heart0less and JordanWright 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deezid Posted August 22, 2019 Author Share Posted August 22, 2019 So you went down with Saturation Max to a low level. Looks horrible honestly. The light on the right is a really colorful red not dull pink and the one on the right is bright orange/yellow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanielVranic Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 26 minutes ago, deezid said: So you went down with Saturation Max to a low level. Looks horrible honestly. The light on the right is a really colorful red not dull pink and the one on the right is bright orange/yellow. Hey man, no need to be rude about it. Nothing that can not be adjusted in a secondary, or even left if it serves the look. Either way, your LUT appears good. I will pick up when it is available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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