Emanuel Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 ...if we can call 1080p blurred or add blur to 4K... E : -) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rinad Amir Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 Hands down 4K GH5s? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anaconda_ Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 It's so dependent on your equipment and delivery format. If you're shooting 4k on an iPhone but 1080 on a BMPCC then 1080 will win. If YouTube is the endgame, 4k is most likely better. Geoff CB 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mako Sports Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 Team 4K over here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Kuźniar Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 4k all day every day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBounce Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 It’s a tough one, I think 1080 upscaled to 4K can look pretty dam good. maxmizer and webrunner5 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebrothersthre3 Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 I often shoot 4k as there is less moire and less noise if I am downscaling to 1080p. Depends on the camera though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBounce Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 The overhead in post is certainly much better with a 1080p workflow. I would argue the improved post overhead is a much greater difference that any perceptible difference in image quality. Keep in mind, if the target audience is YouTube, a large percentage of mobile devices... including all iOS device, do not support resolutions beyond 1080p. Geoff CB 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kye Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 I didn't vote because you didn't put an option for "it depends". Phil A, webrunner5 and Geoff CB 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emanuel Posted June 11, 2019 Author Share Posted June 11, 2019 4 hours ago, kye said: I didn't vote because you didn't put an option for "it depends". If you read better, it is there... ; ) Very subtle towards one of the options, but the premise is there : ) Otherwise, it wouldn't make sense, isn't it? Who wants less if you can have more? ; -) The point in discussion here is when more can end less or as you wish and more accurately I'd say, different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowfun Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 I didn’t vote because I can’t remember the last time I actually said either “baby” or “dude” (with or without the “!”). If I had to vote it’d be for the “it depends” option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mokara Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 If you are shooting 4K on a non-oversampled sensor it doesn't matter because it is basically 1080p anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emanuel Posted June 11, 2019 Author Share Posted June 11, 2019 54 minutes ago, Snowfun said: I didn’t vote because I can’t remember the last time I actually said either “baby” or “dude” (with or without the “!”). If I had to vote it’d be for the “it depends” option. Where are you located? Language depends on many variables such as age, cultural group, geographic region and so on. Only to mention a few. English is 'the' international idiom by excellence, so it defies you to understand your English is everything you want but beyond your own or the usage you're used to in your circle. That's the cost to use an international code of communication. Not exactly the same to call it universal. I often think how hard should be to Andrew as British native to figure out what many of us are willing to mean over his pages. Me or you included : D About the poll, it is delivery related as title infers, not acquisition : -) heart0less and webrunner5 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kye Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 3 hours ago, Emanuel said: About the poll, it is delivery related as title infers, not acquisition : -) Even that depends.. If you're shooting a long-form without access to huge HDD space then 1080p acquisition might be the best way to go, with some of the smart upscaling algorithms to get it to 4K delivery. Slow-motion is normally forced at 1080p on affordable cameras, but even if it wasn't the file sizes might be prohibitive for some. Then in terms of delivery, YouTube compresses the absolute life out of video so you're better off "delivering" in 4K even if you didn't shoot in 4K. However, if you're delivering straight to the client then a higher quality 1080p might be preferable to a lower quality 4K, for macro-blocking in shadows or other compression artefacts. Shooting 4K for 1080 delivery has many benefits, but it's not a one-size-fits-all option. Geoff CB 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emanuel Posted June 11, 2019 Author Share Posted June 11, 2019 Seems you're placing your vote then or not? : D This poll is not 1080p vs 4K. First off, it is restricted to delivery to begin with. It is not 'can be better' but 'is it better?' ; ) It is not 'high quality 1080p' vs 'low quality 4K' (so, no bitrate, bit-depth, color sampling, codec variables to depend from) but... ...is it 1080p better than 4K or vice versa to deliver? It is not about upscaling (I wrote 'capture resolution' but I could have written 'source resolution' instead, take it revised & updated now) but can be about downscaling... It is not about different deliveries either. So, trending YT upscale advantage rules out. Neither post production is delivery. In short, 1080p can beat 4K when you feel the need to blur 4K. You'll hardly feel the need to blur 1080p ; -) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Video Hummus Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 It depends. I would generally choose to shoot in 4K and delivery a 1080p for the increase in flexibility in editing with crops, zooms, stabilization and noise reduction in downsampling. The overhead to shoot 4K these days is not high anymore. Unless you are doing YouTube with quick turnaround and don’t have a good computer... YouTube is like the great equalizer. The bitrates are low and people watch 80% on a mobile device. Most TVs do really well upscaling 1080p to 4K. New Samsung 8K tv does it well too. I don’t see any need to shoot higher than 4K unless you have a good reason too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emanuel Posted June 11, 2019 Author Share Posted June 11, 2019 So, you're actually answering going along your statement. Hey, you even have a vote B! : D It is all hinted with the first post of this thread BTW (for some good and inevitable reason I didn't add my vote ; ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HockeyFan12 Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 http://yedlin.net/ResDemo/# I actually prefer the look of the 2k images in that demo to the 6k images. Emanuel 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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