User Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 Nice to see you folks kept the boxing glove laced up and this thread actually moved a bit... I guess there is no harm in chiming in. As I'm often found working in big dirty Asian megacities, I like having a few goats standing around nibbling on trash next to the camera... I find it the single biggest contributor to creating a 'cinematic' image. The psychology behind it is that having animals around gently lulls people into a gentler almost 'pastoral' headspace that sharply contrast with their new catastrophic urban landscapes... I call in 'goat-mode.' I also like dangling fruit from wires in places where it will no longer grow. Other than that, I'm with DBounce on 'motion.' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kye Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 7 hours ago, Kisaha said: "Pro" is someone that make a living out of a certain trade, these guys do - they shouldn't - there is a certain space that make it doable, between cheap weddings, corporates and a few "connections". The show didn't go on this year, but they are still pulling some strings for next year. It is not always about abilities and worth, connections are more important almost always. Yeah, it's the same with most industries, maybe all of them. It's who you know not what you know. I don't know about the film industry, but in my industry you can do very well by just being very social and talking a big game. It also helps if you don't know anything, people who are clueless tend to respond positively when clients make non-sensical requests and that makes them 'team players' but the people who actually know why those ideas are ridiculous (and are willing to admit it) are negative influences and are to be eliminated at all costs. Fun fun fun... Kisaha 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebrothersthre3 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 4 minutes ago, kye said: Yeah, it's the same with most industries, maybe all of them. It's who you know not what you know. I don't know about the film industry, but in my industry you can do very well by just being very social and talking a big game. It also helps if you don't know anything, people who are clueless tend to respond positively when clients make non-sensical requests and that makes them 'team players' but the people who actually know why those ideas are ridiculous (and are willing to admit it) are negative influences and are to be eliminated at all costs. Fun fun fun... What industry do you work in? Seems like a person like that would get blacklisted once clients see their subpar results. I am not an industry person so I don't know. I guess it's the downside of an unregulated industry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webrunner5 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 Oh no, that is all part of the "Team Aspect". You can't throw your team under the bus. How barbarian. It is for the greater good you keep your pie hole shut. Pretty much a big reason the world is so F ed up now LoL. Must not be insensitive can we. Everyone gets a Participation Trophy now. How cute. Angelic music keyed up softly from above. Someone please engage 'goat-mode'. ? kaylee 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kye Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 59 minutes ago, thebrothersthre3 said: What industry do you work in? Seems like a person like that would get blacklisted once clients see their subpar results. I am not an industry person so I don't know. I guess it's the downside of an unregulated industry. I'm a business consultant, so spend my working days in head offices dealing with management types and office politics. I once spoke to a coworker with a HR background after we ejected someone from the building who was beyond useless, and I suggested that we make a note never to hire that person again and they said that there was some kind of HR rule and we couldn't make any kind of list like that. I don't know if that was just for that company, or a wider regulation, but that company wasn't anything special, so similar limitations are likely in other organisations. The company was around 5000 employees, so the chance that someone else in management somewhere sees that person has experience within the org and re-hires them is considerable. But it has its upsides too - if someone only wants to work with people who agree with them then good riddance, I'll go somewhere else and actually be productive. kaylee 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebrothersthre3 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 1 hour ago, kye said: I'm a business consultant, so spend my working days in head offices dealing with management types and office politics. I once spoke to a coworker with a HR background after we ejected someone from the building who was beyond useless, and I suggested that we make a note never to hire that person again and they said that there was some kind of HR rule and we couldn't make any kind of list like that. I don't know if that was just for that company, or a wider regulation, but that company wasn't anything special, so similar limitations are likely in other organisations. The company was around 5000 employees, so the chance that someone else in management somewhere sees that person has experience within the org and re-hires them is considerable. But it has its upsides too - if someone only wants to work with people who agree with them then good riddance, I'll go somewhere else and actually be productive. I didn't mean an actual list. More like word getting around. I guess the world is big enough where that isn't effective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kye Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 3 hours ago, thebrothersthre3 said: I didn't mean an actual list. More like word getting around. I guess the world is big enough where that isn't effective. Yeah, even in small cities, the world is still a big place unless you stand out in some way or are part of a very small field, like if you're a specialist or charge a spectacular rate. Sadly, human nature is quite pervasive so these aren't unique issues! You only have to be good enough to get hired for work - you don't generally have to be that good at actually doing it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebrothersthre3 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 9 hours ago, kye said: Yeah, even in small cities, the world is still a big place unless you stand out in some way or are part of a very small field, like if you're a specialist or charge a spectacular rate. Sadly, human nature is quite pervasive so these aren't unique issues! You only have to be good enough to get hired for work - you don't generally have to be that good at actually doing it Yes but 2/3rds of the shots out of focus isn't good enough! ? The world is an interesting place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kye Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 8 hours ago, thebrothersthre3 said: Yes but 2/3rds of the shots out of focus isn't good enough! ? The world is an interesting place. True. There's a threshold at which people are so pissed off with the results that they make a big noise about you, which would stop people hiring you. However some markets are big enough that bad feedback doesn't get to every client and slick sales-people still make sales. Interesting is definitely the word... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heart0less Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 I'm blown away by this doc: Everything looks and feels great: sound, composition, lighting (even though it was mostly natural light), motion, color grading. Just perfect. Some BTS and commentary: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5o43HH6ZkE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCy-JYgLPU4 webrunner5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webrunner5 Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 Ought to be able to be done with the PK4 also with a speedbooster. Mostly is BMD CS and ProRes making it happen. Well their grade also but.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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