Ed_David Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 I did a quick skintone and motion test between the two cameras. Will do a more thorough test tomorrow. Let me know thoughts. C200 was donated for the test by Friendly Films! http://www.friendlyfilms.co/ Gregormannschaft, bobo3, Erthal and 3 others 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webrunner5 Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 Wow, now that is a test! Well done. Ed_David 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobo3 Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 Seems like the Blacks start a lot higher on the C200 compared to BRAW? Did you find that the C200 did that to retain highlights better or once graded they pretty much had similar traits? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonesy Jones Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 Great to have you back Ed. Thanks for the test. What I noticed is that the UMP tends toward magenta. The Canon is more neutral/green. It could be my bias but the UMP seems to render the gradients better with more dimension. But both images are superb. In a blind test I'd never have a clue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_David Posted September 19, 2018 Author Share Posted September 19, 2018 19 minutes ago, bobo3 said: Seems like the Blacks start a lot higher on the C200 compared to BRAW? Did you find that the C200 did that to retain highlights better or once graded they pretty much had similar traits? I think it's clog3 that has a higher black point. I found the c200 noisier in the shadows than the UMP! At 800 ASA - was not expecting that. 17 minutes ago, Jonesy Jones said: Great to have you back Ed. Thanks for the test. What I noticed is that the UMP tends toward magenta. The Canon is more neutral/green. It could be my bias but the UMP seems to render the gradients better with more dimension. But both images are superb. In a blind test I'd never have a clue. Thanks - yes Canon is much more green. I think yes still UMP has that magenta feel - which isn't bad - but yes also agree UMP has more gradients so much dimensions on the face and secondary highlights and all that - so the image feels more organic yes they both do good things - the c200 is smoother - but yea lacks the three dimensional quality. andrgl, bobo3, deezid and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrgl Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 @Ed_David Both these cameras look great! How did the file sizes match up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_David Posted September 20, 2018 Author Share Posted September 20, 2018 7 minutes ago, andrgl said: @Ed_David Both these cameras look great! How did the file sizes match up? 12:1 4.6k BRAW is a LOT smaller than the canon lite which I think is 3:1 4k files Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpfilmz Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 It the UMP really this soft compared to the C200? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_David Posted September 20, 2018 Author Share Posted September 20, 2018 1 hour ago, jpfilmz said: It the UMP really this soft compared to the C200? nope, it was focus that was off. I think if I shot resolution charts, UMP would resolve more than C200 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregormannschaft Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 10 hours ago, Ed_David said: I did a quick skintone and motion test between the two cameras. Will do a more thorough test tomorrow. Let me know thoughts. C200 was donated for the test by Friendly Films! http://www.friendlyfilms.co/ Great test, Ed. I picked up a C200 a few months back and liked what I saw, except for the noisey shadows. Always liked your grades in the past, curious what your workflow is here with the Canon RAW Lite footage? Do you start off with a base conversion LUT? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zerocool22 Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 Yeah the flare into the lens onto the ump is might giving some problem in this example. I installed beta 6 and tested it out on a fashion project. I have not gone in post yet, just quickly loaded a clip in resolve. And dang the UMP is looking really amazing with the update. (maybe even alexa good). But need to test out the fpn still. But blackmagic raw 12:1 looks like a godsend right now. deezid 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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