webrunner5 Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 It is pretty hard for me to believe they are coming out with a FF mirrorless camera with Only a 61point AF system (41 cross-type sensors) from the 5D mk IV. And I don't see how they can add like 60, 70, 90% AF coverage without designing a totally new sensor to do that. This is not like old DSLR's that had a separate AF sensor, this stuff is dual purpose pixels On the sensor. The Canon M50 has a sensor with a lot more AF points than the 5D mk IV. I really doubt they are going to build a brand new FF camera with worse AF specs than a M50! 39 minutes ago, wolf33d said: CR1 rumor... no mention of crop. For sure if it has 10 bit external, no crop, IBIS, CLOG and DPAF then it will be a better buy than the Z6 for video. For stills I think the Z6 Sony sensor will be way better as usual. Then again that's a lot of if. And even then the A7SIII / GH5 FF will probably kill it. FHD 60p and not 120p is such a shame though... Where did you read Any specs about HD? mercer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamoui Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 https://www.canonrumors.com/canon-rf-lens-specifications/ 95mm filter diameter on that 28-70 f2 ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Ash Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 31 minutes ago, iamoui said: https://www.canonrumors.com/canon-rf-lens-specifications/ 95mm filter diameter on that 28-70 f2 ? And 1.43 kgs ,3.15 lbs ,no thanks I'll stick to F2.8s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webrunner5 Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 Well this is how big 95mm looks like filter size. Sony 28-135mm f4.0. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MdB Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 3 hours ago, Trek of Joy said: Some mock size comparisons from Canon Rumors. Assuming this is close, the 24-105 looks to be only slightly shorter than the current DSLR version, no surprise there. The version with the cameras side-by-side isn't an accurate size representation if both lenses share the same 77mm filter size. There's also an image with the 28-70 compared to the 24-105. Chris Yep, I compared on the basis that the side by side was accurate. That made the RF 24-105 have a 62mm filter thread. Then overlaying the 28-70 over that AND the EF 24-105 II looked about the same size. Reality though is that the 28-70 is something akin to the Sony 28-135mm f/4... which makes sense. 4 minutes ago, webrunner5 said: Well this is how big 95mm looks like filter size. Sony 28-135mm f4.0. Yep, same sort of weight too. That size never bothered me, especially with the lighter overall body. That combo weighs less than my 1DC with Sigma 50mm attached. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webrunner5 Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 That photo is one nice looking kit. Amazing how far we have come. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MdB Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 Finally, wondered when the focus guide from the Cinema (and XF400) was coming to Canon mirrorless. This will be amazing for MF work. Hopefully this will carry over to video as well. That alone is a HUGE selling point. 3 minutes ago, webrunner5 said: That photo is one nice looking kit. ? 28-135 is ok, very handy but not a great lens. I prefer the look of this new 28-70. Also these are supposedly USM lenses but with no distance window (shown in EVF). Plus it looks like those control rings (and that is supposedly what they are) might be declickable. Also looks like definitely no IBIS. Video specs are looking reasonably close to XF400, so hopefully 1080/120 is still on the cards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pureaxis Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 https://drive.google.com/file/d/1CAZOijAyrUJcOMWNHbjFpGq2CznrIAoN/view full specs sheet, no ibis, no 4k60, or high speed shooting Robert Collins and Cinegain 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ntblowz Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 10 minutes ago, pureaxis said: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1CAZOijAyrUJcOMWNHbjFpGq2CznrIAoN/view full specs sheet, no ibis, no 4k60, or high speed shooting 120fps is in 720p, no 1080p60 in crop mode is kinda depressing lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MdB Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 9 minutes ago, pureaxis said: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1CAZOijAyrUJcOMWNHbjFpGq2CznrIAoN/view full specs sheet, no ibis, no 4k60, or high speed shooting Let’s just say the lenses are it’s strong point lol Just now, ntblowz said: 120fps is in 720p Same video specs as the M50, except offer IPB and All-I. So maxes at 480Mbps. Which is nice compared to Sony / Nikon. But no clue on crop or EVF specs. 5fps with AF is pretty basic. EthanAlexander 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdouthit Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 18 hours ago, Mattias Burling said: I'm not sure I really buy the "protecting the cinema line anymore". I believe they are doing what they can to deliver a camera to their standards. Sonys over heat and canons subsampling c-cameras have cooling fans. Current Sony cameras do not overheat. I have both the A7RIII and A7III, have used both extensively, shooting 4k video for extended periods of time in open, direct sun at temperatures well above 100F for full day shoots. No problem. Not even a warning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MdB Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 7 minutes ago, rdouthit said: Current Sony cameras do not overheat. I have both the A7RIII and A7II, have used both extensively, shooting 4k video for extended periods of time in open, direct sun at temperatures well above 100F for full day shoots. No problem. Not even a warning. A7 II shoots 4K?! But no you’re right. It mainly one model which apparently people think makes them an expert on everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdouthit Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 1 minute ago, MdB said: A7 II shoots 4K?! But no you’re right. It mainly one model which apparently people think makes them an expert on everything. Typo. Meant A7III. Ninja-edited it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowbro Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 An interview earlier this year with a Canon executive stated something along the lines of: We underestimated the demand for a mirrorless FF camera (and 4k). We are developing a mid ranged mirrorless FF camera now. Then we will do a high end mirrorless, when we feel it does everything our pro level DSLR's do and/or better. Something like that, I haven't read it again for months. It obviously is a mirrorless 5D IV like most people called. It even uses the same battery lol. I do fully expect Canon to make a high end mirrorless FF with IBIS, 4k 60, 10 bit, 14+ dynamic range etc. but probably not for another year and not under $5,000. No IBIS, no Full HD 120p, no H.265 option, no 10 bit, cropped Full HD 60p? Just proves that they are either complete morons, or they feel their customer base is. They have a lot of balls. I would go to the new Nikon mirrorless, but I will take a hard pass with all those f/1.8 primes, I need f/1.4 sometimes. Panasonic, you are the last hope with that FF mirrorless on the 25th haha. BTW; I saw canon rumors say the new 50mm f/1.2 is 2lbs vs 1.28lbs on the EF version... SMH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Calabros Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 Why "Full HD 59.94 fps not available during EF-S cropped shooting"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowbro Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 I didn't see it, but I bet you that 4k is cropped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OliKMIA Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 2 hours ago, pureaxis said: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1CAZOijAyrUJcOMWNHbjFpGq2CznrIAoN/view full specs sheet, no ibis, no 4k60, or high speed shooting Source: https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=en&ie=UTF8&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=ja&sp=nmt4&tl=en&u=https://www.nokishita-camera.com/2018/09/eos-r_2.html&xid=17259,15700002,15700023,15700124,15700149,15700186,15700191,15700201&usg=ALkJrhheO-vY7EUauCafCiEIZ37WuSIcrA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Calabros Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 48 minutes ago, Snowbro said: I didn't see it, but I bet you that 4k is cropped. If it was cropped they would mention it somewhere as footnote in that pdf. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OliKMIA Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 1 minute ago, Eric Calabros said: If it was cropped they would mention it somewhere as footnote in that pdf. I don't think that I ever saw a canon brochure mentioning crop... Basically it's just a mirrorless 5D4.... They fucked it again... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Calabros Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 3 hours ago, webrunner5 said: Well this is how big 95mm looks like filter size. Sony 28-135mm f4.0. Look at the front element size.. the diameter of lens is bigger than it had to be. I use Sigma 135 f/1.8 for portrait works and I've always said it needed a tripod collar. Canon 28-70 is bigger and 300g heavier than that behemoth Sigma. Go figure. 4 minutes ago, OliKMIA said: I don't think that I ever saw a canon brochure mentioning crop... Basically it's just a mirrorless 5D4.... They fucked it again... At least it has All-I codec. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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