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5 minutes ago, Django said:

More like the Super35 mode in 1DC. Actual Super35 not 1.74x crop. And of course FF. For both 4K & 1080p. 

The difference between the (more like 1.64x) crop and S35 is pretty negligible. If you want 1:1 readout, that’s the crop. The 24MP gives about 10MP (3:2) in 1.5x crop, about perfect for 1:1 UHD. The 30MP is about 12MP at 1.5x crop from memory. Thus the slight extra crop. 

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2 minutes ago, Django said:

Actually I'm feeling the ergonomics a lot more on the Z6: joystick, tilt screen, ISO button, 2 front FN buttons, Mode dial with U1/U2/U3.

No dedicated AF-S/AF-C switch on either.

I agree completely on ergonomics, but until I've held them its of course just my suspicion.

I never go out of AF-S and hopefully most lenses would let me switch to MF on the barrel.

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I like what I'm seeing... a lot! 

The only things I am worried about is IBIS and the 4K crop. Looking at Canons other DSLRs and them 'wanting to protect their cinema line', I am sure there will be some bs restrictions on it. 

And maybe the price. If it's around $2k, I'll probably get it I think.

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38 minutes ago, Django said:

@Mattias Burling Never going out of AF-S means not taking advantage of Dual Pixel tracking though no?

Yes it does, it switches to it automatically when going into live mode, if I want to. 

But usually I have it in single when using DPAF as well. And in liveview its faster to turn on tracking with the screen or the button than it would with a switch.

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21 minutes ago, Django said:

They got SO much flack for that crop factor on 5D4,  wouldn't be wise doing that again knowing what they're up against. then again it's Canon..lol

I think that is part of the problem though. The specs, on paper, look really great as does their lens choices. It looks like - assuming a US$2k price - it will make a major dent in A7iii sales and in Nikon's mirrorless aspirations. The problem is, it will also affect Canon 5D mkiv sales (and 6Dii even more) and I am not sure Canon's bean counters will stand for that. So I suspect there will be a lot of crippling....

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12 minutes ago, Django said:

I agree. I think Canon are going to protect their pro DSLR line (as Nikon) and are going to continue to protect their C-line.

This probably means single card slot, 4K crop, 8-bit etc.

It's Canon.  Something has to be wrong about the video.   It would be a miracle if its full sensor width non croped 4k.  Forget 10 bit thats a joke. C-log if you're lucky.  My guess is exactly what you said.

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It has nothing to do with protecting anything. They do what the hardware will allow them to do. If you don't mind a pair of leafblowers attached to the side of the camera I am sure that they would happy to provide you with a higher spec product.

I am guessing that this camera will have a Digic 8 and consequently will have the same limitations that all other Digic 8/DV6 cameras have. The M50 is probably a reasonable approximation for the sort of video this camera will produce, the main difference is that this one will be able to take FF stills.

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