thanks tferradans!    i asked our resident expert how it compares to a B&H and he said this:     much smaller run than kowa  bell howell better quality control. it is an 8z that would go through additional tests by elmo. elmo made the best ever cine projector so they made sure all the optics where the best they could be. lovely single coat  Magnesium Fluoride should be super sharp.   i've tried a 35mm in a clamp and there is a slight vignette, but,.....the c