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1 minute ago, IronFilm said:


Is a pity it doesn't have more than one output from the BMPCC4K, as then you could have a LUT on one output for the client and no LUT for your own monitoring. 

I wonder if you could use USB-C as a monitoring output. It obviously sends the picture out to record to thumbdrives so what about a USB monitor?

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12 hours ago, anonim said:

But here I noticed that several visitors confirm the same - to quote one of them: "Blackmagic people were unwilling to say anything on camera." I don't understand why.

 


It is normal for many brands across many industries to be comfortable to say one thing in person but not be comfortable for it to be filmed for the entire WORLD to then see. 

12 hours ago, Django said:

@anonim my guess is the prototype was barely made ready in time for NAB (may i remind the rubber port cover that broke off during grant's presentation lol). pretty sure they aren't saying much because they themselves probably haven't had a chance to see/do much with it. it's pretty much specs & a prototype at this point i think.

Ah yeah, I remember that popping off! That was funny. Must have given Grant a mini heart attack. 

 

 

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3 minutes ago, Philip Lipetz said:

I used to work in finance. Some companies can get loans against their order book.

That wouldn't be the CROWDs financing it. 

It would be a bank (or similar) doing the funding, and even then the funds are not given (like a kickstarter campaign is) but is simply loaned. 

 

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3 minutes ago, IronFilm said:


Is a pity it doesn't have more than one output from the BMPCC4K, as then you could have a LUT on one output for the client and no LUT for your own monitoring. 

If its like the Ursa, you should be able to have one (or none) for your camera LCD and a different one for the HDMI output.

If you wanted to use an external monitor for yourself as well then you could go out of the HDMI without a LUT, through your monitor (without a LUT) and into the client monitor where you have a LUT applied there.

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12 hours ago, BTM_Pix said:

I think it will help that this sensor has been available for quite a while so is a known entity and they've had the opportunity to study what other companies are doing with it.

That, combined with using the same OS as the Ursa, should make it much more of an integration job rather than a ground up development.

Add on Blackmagic now having another 5 years experience of learned lessons of development of building cameras and its not unreasonable to suspect it will be plainer sailing this time round.


Exactly my thoughts too, I'm expecting a smoother roll out than some other BMD camera launches. 

 

2 minutes ago, BTM_Pix said:

If you wanted to use an external monitor for yourself as well then you could go out of the HDMI without a LUT, through your monitor (without a LUT) and into the client monitor where you have a LUT applied there.


Yup, normal workflow again for cameras without the ability to apply LUTs. But a pity that a camera which can apply LUTs (this new Pocket) doesn't have an extra output option to fully make use of this (maybe the USB-C is an option here like someone else mentioned). Love they've got a full size HDMI output, but what if they'd had a full size HDMI *and* a micro HDMI output?!

12 hours ago, Luke Mason said:

Here are two more screenshots, there are three dynamic range modes (video, extended video and film), these were shot with "film" at ISO 3200 if I remember correctly:


Interesting, does the UMP have "extended video"?  I've never seen it on the BMCC/BMPCC. 

12 hours ago, Luke Mason said:

They didn't tape the card slot, so... ;)


I am surprised they didn't just GLUE the cards into the slots on the cameras (as it is an easy part to replace themselves after the tradeshow). 

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2 hours ago, Snowfun said:

The Bluetooth feature... I so want to post a picture on reduser of me controlling the Pocket 4K using a Hydrogen...


I want to see the reaction on reduser when you share that image

59 minutes ago, sanveer said:

I think that's being unreasonable. For the buck, they are already giving WAY more than anyone else.  


I'd rather have an internal eND than have 4K 60fps

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5 minutes ago, IronFilm said:


I want to see the reaction on reduser when you share that image


I'd rather have an internal eND than have 4K 60fps

4k 60fps was the instant preorder spec for me, If you shoot fashion or MV it s almost mandatory, for ND since It s M4/3 there are adapters with NDs you can slide on. 

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10 minutes ago, IronFilm said:

I'd rather have an internal eND than have 4K 60fps

I always hear people saying BM is bad in low light, and that's been fixed with dual ISO, so now people are saying it's letting in too much light and we need NDs. Jeez.

You can stick an ND filter on the end of your lens, but you can't add lowlight capabilities or double the fps afterwards. NDs would be nice, but far from a reason not to buy this camera.

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2 hours ago, jonpais said:

Who needs to see footage. It's the best camera. Pre-order it! 

Am not preordering anything. I am just happy to have plenty of options to choose from. I am waiting for sony to release the a7s3 and everything will be laid on the table to be picked.

We are so lucky to live these days. I eman to be able to choose between gh5s - BMPCC4k - and soon to be out a7s3  - nice!!

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29 minutes ago, Laurier said:

4k 60fps was the instant preorder spec for me, If you shoot fashion or MV it s almost mandatory, for ND since It s M4/3 there are adapters with NDs you can slide on. 

They're still slower than built in ones. 

And you can't use it with a focal reducer, or with native lenses. 

 

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53 minutes ago, amanieux said:

with raw recording at 1TByte/hour, a internal m2 slot for cheap m2 ssd would have been a much better choice (smaller volume than their choice of cf+sd slots and a 1TByte m2 ssd is only $230 so it is cheaper, offers larger capacities and it is much faster than sd or cf https://www.amazon.com/dp/B073SB2MXT/ref=twister_B07BXC53V5

Those aren't meant for swapping out all the time like SD or CFast. Maybe in some kind of sled, or a U.2 configuration. CFexpress is the NVMe standard coming up, but nobody's implemented it in a camera yet so far as I know. Maybe in the next generation of cameras...

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24 minutes ago, IronFilm said:

They're still slower than built in ones. 

And you can't use it with a focal reducer, or with native lenses. 

 

I was hoping Sony was going to pump their hybrid tech into the FS5II, but that turned out to be a major dud. Their auto e-ND is unmatched so far. Panasonic has an 8K sensor with GS and on-sensor ND coming; no announcement yet on what camera (wouldn't be surprised to see that on a Varicam first), or when, but that tech IS coming sooner rather than later.

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The likely achilles heel of the Pocket 4K IMHO are the prominently exposed ventilation slots on the lens turret, even on the upper side of the camera. I means that the camera (aside from not being weather-sealed in any way) should never be used in any rainy/humid or dusty environment. - Anything that lands on the camera and travels through these slots will end up on the sensor.

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