Super Members Mattias Burling Posted February 23, 2018 Super Members Share Posted February 23, 2018 I made this poll on YouTube, that's why I only have five options (its maximum on YT). Thought it could be fun to compare results. Emanuel 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hijodeibn Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 2 minutes ago, Mattias Burling said: I made this poll on YouTube, that's why I only have five options (its maximum on YT). Thought it could be fun to compare results. where is the good AF option? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markr041 Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 Where is the color option? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Members Mattias Burling Posted February 23, 2018 Author Super Members Share Posted February 23, 2018 11 minutes ago, hijodeibn said: where is the good AF option? 9 minutes ago, markr041 said: Where is the color option? Like I wrote in the post. The maximum number of allowed options are five. So I had to pick only five. Because it would imo be interesting to compare the results between a niche forum like this and a broader audience. But you guys made me think that a gear forum might not be ready to look past certain things. So I added a bunch of opinions Let me know what's missing before the time limit to edit the post runs out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hijodeibn Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 ahhhh, I voted autofocus but color is equal important.....can we have the option to vote two times? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Members Mattias Burling Posted February 23, 2018 Author Super Members Share Posted February 23, 2018 Just now, hijodeibn said: ahhhh, I voted autofocus but color is equal important.....can we have the option to vote two times? No it's more fun to pick just one. You will have to dig deep down and decide which you rather be without Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Hartman Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 Has to be dynamic range for me. I could deal with 1080 resolution for the time being but blown out highlights and clipped shadows drive me bonkers to no healthy end. And it makes sense. Our eyes are going right to the lightest and darkest parts of the scene, and what do many videos have in the background? Blown out skies and practicals. ARGRHGHAGHEUHGH. ????????? Badge? You mean brand? Mattias Burling 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Members Mattias Burling Posted February 23, 2018 Author Super Members Share Posted February 23, 2018 Yes, brand. As a joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Hartman Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 1 minute ago, Mattias Burling said: Yes, brand. As a joke. We need some of that humor here lately. ? Mattias Burling 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kye Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 I chose ISO, which even surprised me! I should probably have chosen price, because who buys something they can't afford because it's good at everything else.. I'd own a Lamborghini, Red Raven, Sony A7RIII, and a render farm! My rationale for ISO is that I shoot run-and-gun in available light, which means interiors feature heavily. If ISO performance is bad, then resolution dies, AF stops working, etc. During the process to buy my current camera I looked at quite a number of options, and eliminated most of them based on sub-par performance in a particular aspect despite them being brilliant at almost everything else, so I ended up with a camera that doesn't excel at anything, but doesn't really have any fatal flaws that I need to work around either. Being forced to choose is quite a revealing thing. Mattias Burling 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webrunner5 Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 Now he tells us we Could Have picked 5. I picked 1. Bitrate/raw/prores Dynamic Range, hell didn't anybody look at the video comparing the BM, A6300, GH4, Canon 5D mk III where DR really didn't mean squat LoL. Why do you think Rec. 709 works! Sort of all you need maybe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
User Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 ISO for run and gun docs in difficult conditions. C100Mk2 ticks almost all the boxes though. And solid pre amps too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbp Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 Not sure if I can distill it to one feature, but I'd say overall usability. I used to want to squeeze every ounce of image quality, and would sacrifice ergonomics for it. Now I won't. Most things are good enough, and I'd much prefer to use a camera that lets me get a variety of shots quickly. Something that just makes the whole process easy and enjoyable. jonpais and Kisaha 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Members Mattias Burling Posted February 24, 2018 Author Super Members Share Posted February 24, 2018 We have a very (imo) interesting result! As you know I did this poll in two places. Here on the niche forum where most are interested in the technical aspects as well as the creative the number one spec was voted: Dynamic Range, 26% Total votes: 23 On YouTube there can only be 5 options to a poll. But since Dynamic Range was there it shouldn't matter as a comparison to here. But as you can see it was Buttons/handling and Build Quality that took the first place, 45%. Total votes: 864 A conclusion from me: This points to why the people out there still use an Canon this or Fuji that over some new "spec" heavy release. Ive tried saying it before and got yelled at by some. Ergonomics, layout, controls, what ever you call it is an important spec. That to many will trump even DR. User 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inazuma Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 I think you could have grouped some options under one: image quality. DR and noise, if not also colour and resolution. As it is, I can't vote for any one of those things above handling even though I find it to be the most important spec although then again, if I really valued image quality over handling then I would have bought a bmpcc by now.. jonpais and anonim 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Members Mattias Burling Posted February 24, 2018 Author Super Members Share Posted February 24, 2018 1 hour ago, Inazuma said: I think you could have grouped some options under one.. Yes but the fun of the game is to force people to pick one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kisaha Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 As I see it, and it is exactly as I look at it for years now, that is exactly the reason excellent cameras such the GH5 are top in many people's list right now, or excellent forward thinking cameras like the NX1 can't easily let you go of them. Great image attributes (GH5: 10 bit, many codec/high speed options. NX1:H265 codec as high as 180Mbps stable, with very good slow mo quality and one of the least rolling shutter in 1080p until the GH5 came), unlimited recording time the first and 78min continuous recording the other, but with also praised ergonomics and build quality. What's not to like? There isn't a probable issue holding people from buying them (or still using them). Conclusions: for me and many pro videographer friends, the Sony crop cameras are down because of ergonomics, unreliability in the field and battery life, and Fuji and Canon do not offer the full package to be considered as workhorses in the industry. There are a few Sony here and there as B roll cameras (mostly because the A7sII are very popular, and mostly a6300 that people bought, and can't get rid of on a normal price, because it lost half of its value a little bit after they bought them ), but no Fuji at all, and a few Canon 5DmkIII that have left from the previous wave. GH5 is dominated my specific segment so hard, that I buy stuff with my mind on those cameras (I have said that before, Edelkrone Surface and Slider for GH5, SmallHD Focus GH version). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webrunner5 Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 I will still stick to Codec is #1. That is why a BMPCC is great, a 1DC, Arri Alexa, BM Ursa Mini 4.6k, hell even the 5D mk III ML now. I don't care if it has a hundred buttons and 80 stops of DR. If it has a shit Codec it sucks plain and simple. I mean yeah the sensor has to be good also, but it still has to have the output to make it great. And that is Codec. And Mattias keep the polls coming. I think it makes for interesting results, and that is the reason for them. Look how diverse the answers are on here. 37 minutes ago, Kisaha said: GH5 is dominated my specific segment so hard, that I buy stuff with my mind on those cameras (I have said that before, Edelkrone Surface and Slider for GH5, SmallHD Focus GH version). No Speedbooster for the GH5? I would think that would be at the top of the list. Maybe not for the GH5s but... To me a Speedbooster cures two of the weakness of m4/3. DoF and Low Light problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbp Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 31 minutes ago, webrunner5 said: I will still stick to Codec is #1. That is why a BMPCC is great, a 1DC, Arri Alexa, BM Ursa Mini 4.6k, hell even the 5D mk III ML now. I don't care if it has a hundred buttons and 80 stops of DR. If it has a shit Codec it sucks plain and simple. I mean yeah the sensor has to be good also, but it still has to have the output to make it great. And that is Codec. And Mattias keep the polls coming. I think it makes for interesting results, and that is the reason for them. Look how diverse the answers are on here. No Speedbooster for the GH5? I would think that would be at the top of the list. Maybe not for the GH5s but... To me a Speedbooster cures two of the weakness of m4/3. DoF and Low Light problem. Codec is big, too. Pro Res on the pocket is amazing. Not just the quality, but it just edits sooooooooooooo smoothly, and even if it's not RAW, it always surprises me with how robust it is for color correction. Even Pro Res LT. The Pocket's codec choices are dynamite. webrunner5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBounce Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 Can you add motion cadence? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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