gethin Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 Just shot my first commercial project on the gh5, Footage looks OK so far, although did notice a whole load of noise on a couple of VFR shots at 180 fps. One was slightly underexposed but not by much... 1:1 grab. Iso 200, but shot at rediclous shutter speed, cos I was shooting wide open on speedbooster. Maybe that was it? Should clean up OK though. So wondering if there are any cinelike D luts out there that I should try out? Most of the stuff I've found is Dlog. Any pointers welcomed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonpais Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 You mean most of the LUTs you’ve found are for V-log, not Dlog, right? ? The obvious choice would be Leeming. But after trying out HLG with Leeming’s v501, it may be time to bid a tearful farewell to my beloved Cinelike D for good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orangenz Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 What camera settings are you using though? All my 180fps stuff is clean as a stunningly clean thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gethin Posted October 25, 2017 Author Share Posted October 25, 2017 On 24/10/2017 at 5:19 PM, jonpais said: You mean most of the LUTs you’ve found are for V-log, not Dlog, right? ? The obvious choice would be Leeming. But after trying out HLG with Leeming’s v501, it may be time to bid a tearful farewell to my beloved Cinelike D for good. so you're shooting HLG, and then applying leeming's Luts is that right? Can you use HLG with all the movie settings? Whats the advantage? (so many questions!) On 24/10/2017 at 7:15 PM, Orangenz said: What camera settings are you using though? All my 180fps stuff is clean as a stunningly clean thing. it was the highest quality 1080 that allowed VFR (whatever that was, I think its 8bit 150 Mbps). iso 200, stupidly high shutter speed (like 8000th, @f2). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orangenz Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 7 hours ago, gethin said: so you're shooting HLG, and then applying leeming's Luts is that right? Can you use HLG with all the movie settings? Whats the advantage? (so many questions!) it was the highest quality 1080 that allowed VFR (whatever that was, I think its 8bit 150 Mbps). iso 200, stupidly high shutter speed (like 8000th, @f2). Few more settings than that... like flat highlight shadow, ires off, idynam off, profile - use cine D for high dynamic range situations. There should be zero noise in that situation - maybe you didn't "slightly" underexpose it, but massively underexposed it. Leeming uses expose to the right for the highlights to avoid that problem and get most dynamic range from the sensor. HLG is 10bit so will not have some movie options. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonpais Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 @gethin Yes, you’re shooting HLG, then adding the LUT in post. The advantages are a fast workflow, truer color and two stops greater dynamic range than Cinelike D. The settings are found in Paul Leeming’s PDF I linked to above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gethin Posted October 26, 2017 Author Share Posted October 26, 2017 @jonpais, OK! well I guess I might as well get my head into that before getting any deeper into cinelike d. 13 hours ago, Orangenz said: Few more settings than that... like flat highlight shadow, ires off, idynam off, profile - use cine D for high dynamic range situations. There should be zero noise in that situation - maybe you didn't "slightly" underexpose it, but massively underexposed it. Leeming uses expose to the right for the highlights to avoid that problem and get most dynamic range from the sensor. HLG is 10bit so will not have some movie options. No, havent fiddles with highlight shadow yet, idynam off. Histogram was just slightly to the left of bang in the centre (but I must admit the histogram was very narrow, not evenly spread over the tonal range - I'll double check to see if I messed with tone curves). the other shot I did just before it was exposed exactly the same, but shooting into the sun and all looks fine - except again for quite a lot of noise in the hair. ANyhoo, the rest of the shoot was fine so the one curve I need to work on is the learning one and thanks for the heads up on 10 bit HLG. For what I do it means cinelike D is still worth exploring. I'll keep HLG for the right project. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orangenz Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 13 hours ago, gethin said: @jonpais, OK! well I guess I might as well get my head into that before getting any deeper into cinelike d. No, havent fiddles with highlight shadow yet, idynam off. Histogram was just slightly to the left of bang in the centre (but I must admit the histogram was very narrow, not evenly spread over the tonal range - I'll double check to see if I messed with tone curves). the other shot I did just before it was exposed exactly the same, but shooting into the sun and all looks fine - except again for quite a lot of noise in the hair. ANyhoo, the rest of the shoot was fine so the one curve I need to work on is the learning one and thanks for the heads up on 10 bit HLG. For what I do it means cinelike D is still worth exploring. I'll keep HLG for the right project. If you export your camera settings I can load them up and see whats going on. gethin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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