IronFilm Posted March 27, 2017 Share Posted March 27, 2017 As I already do sound seriously, I'd like to get into the lucrative career of sound gripping, thus looking at grip gear to get... specifically these combo stands on Aliexpress (sorry, I can't afford anything better on my $10/day rate!). Anybody tried them before, what do they think of them? https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4m-studio-Combo-Stand-Tripod-Load-20kg-for-Light-2k-5k-HMI-Compact-Par-1-2k/32265490574.html https://www.aliexpress.com/item/PRO-3-4m-Combo-Stand-Tripod-load-40kg-for-Spotlight-5K-HMI-4K-M40/32796936968.html https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4m-Studio-Combo-Stand-Tripod-Load-20kg-for-Light-2k-5k-HMI-Compact-Par-1-2k/32596647221.html TheRenaissanceMan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tupp Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 Never tried those stands, but Kupo is a decent, established brand from Asia, and they have pretty good prices on their combo stands. TheRenaissanceMan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HockeyFan12 Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 What is sound gripping? Given a normal sound mixed day rate ($2k-$10k union/$750+ non-union wet hire) I'd just bring the best of the best along every time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webrunner5 Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 I doubt for that money they are going to be able to stand, pun intended, the rigors of travel day after day. Yeah might be a good way to break into the game, but I might look at used stuff say in LA areas. Even Craigslist out there has some crazy ass video gear for sale at times. You can't wear out the high end stuff no matter how you beat on it. You can Not afford a failure in that business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRenaissanceMan Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 First of all, I'm in love with the sound grip jokes. Keep em coming; movie set memes has had me in stitches since the whole thing started. Second of all, I'd second the Kupo Master Combo HD stand. B&H has them for $155 with free shipping right now, which is hard to beat. Or if you're looking for something even studier, you could go for a used Matthews beefy baby. B&H regularly has used copies for ~$170. Just no built in combo head, if that's what you're after. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kisaha Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 @IronFilm what do you want those heavy tripods? @HockeyFan12 The union pay per day is 2-10.000$?! First of all, the difference is vast, how do you get paid? 2 or 10? For a documentary shooting of 40 days production, you are getting paid, let's say 5000$ X 40 = 200000$?! that is so hard to believe.. Here is around 70-150euros per day, most of the equipment including. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronFilm Posted March 28, 2017 Author Share Posted March 28, 2017 44 minutes ago, Kisaha said: @HockeyFan12 The union pay per day is 2-10.000$?! First of all, the difference is vast, how do you get paid? 2 or 10? For a documentary shooting of 40 days production, you are getting paid, let's say 5000$ X 40 = 200000$?! that is so hard to believe.. Here is around 70-150euros per day, most of the equipment including. In Canada all Sound Grips get a flat $10/day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronFilm Posted March 28, 2017 Author Share Posted March 28, 2017 2 hours ago, TheRenaissanceMan said: First of all, I'm in love with the sound grip jokes. Keep em coming; movie set memes has had me in stitches since the whole thing started. Second of all, I'd second the Kupo Master Combo HD stand. B&H has them for $155 with free shipping right now, which is hard to beat. Or if you're looking for something even studier, you could go for a used Matthews beefy baby. B&H regularly has used copies for ~$170. Just no built in combo head, if that's what you're after. Ordering from B&H isn't really an option for these extremely heavy items when you live overseas :-/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kisaha Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 @IronFilm What is a "Sound grip"?! 10$/day is a very low wage for anywhere in the Western world though, if you explain me what a "sound grip" is, and what it does, I can learn and comprehend it better. Are you based in Canada now? I thought you were NZ. The ones you have linked, I have work with most of those, but some were definitely Arri and other well know brands, so I can't really tell how good these knock-offs are, try to understand if the connections (joints) seem ok, the metal parts, will be metal parts, easily to copy and match, but the moving parts and "mechanisms" can be tricky. All in all, some of those I remember using since 1999 (I still work with this production company from time to time!) and everything is still perfect (no service, no nothing, they just still work, while other smaller, cheaper, new ones, they already have issues). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tupp Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 9 hours ago, TheRenaissanceMan said: Or if you're looking for something even studier, you could go for a used Matthews beefy baby. A combo stand is much sturdier than a baby stand. Essentially, a combo stand is a junior stand that includes a smaller, pop-up baby pin. 6 hours ago, IronFilm said: Ordering from B&H isn't really an option for these extremely heavy items when you live overseas :-/ I think Kupo is based in Korea, but I am fairly sure that they have worldwide dealers. Their starting list price seems very competitive. 5 hours ago, Kisaha said: but some were definitely Arri and other well know brands, Not sure if Arri is considered a "well known brand" in regards to grip equipment. I have never seen an Arri combo stand on set. IronFilm 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kisaha Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 True, the ones I meant are the Avengers brand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HockeyFan12 Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 I think this is some sort of meme that hasn't migrated to my corner of the world yet. :/ IronFilm 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRenaissanceMan Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 Avenger and Kupo are both good bets; in fact, I've heard rumblings that some Avenger products are rebranded Kupo gear. Can't say for sure though. If you can get reasonable shipping from any seller for either, I'd recommend going that route. And @tupp, generally you are correct. In this instance, I'd say the Kupo combo stand is lighter duty than any junior I've ever used. Great for its price, but not as sturdy as a good junior imo. Ymmv tupp 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tupp Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 11 hours ago, TheRenaissanceMan said: And @tupp, generally you are correct. Thanks for the validation. 11 hours ago, TheRenaissanceMan said: In this instance, I'd say the Kupo combo stand is lighter duty than any junior I've ever used. Great for its price, but not as sturdy as a good junior imo I have never used the Kupo combo stand, but I have seen them at NAB and CineGear. I have used Kupo contract stands (the ones that they make for other manufacturers), and they were good. On the other hand, there is not much to a combo stand. I can't recall ever having a huge problem with any particular brand. TheRenaissanceMan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronFilm Posted April 2, 2017 Author Share Posted April 2, 2017 Think I'll go with this one:https://www.aliexpress.com/item/PRO-3-4m-Combo-Stand-Tripod-load-40kg-for-Spotlight-5K-HMI-4K-M40/32796936968.html They have lots of other interesting stuff too:https://www.aliexpress.com/store/group/Lighting-Effect-Modification/1293354_506740207.html?spm=2114.12010608.0.0.ksA7rn https://www.aliexpress.com/store/group/Light-stand-Clamp/1293354_503701757.html?spm=2114.12010608.0.0.ksA7rn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kisaha Posted April 2, 2017 Share Posted April 2, 2017 Too much for your 10$ flat rate, try make one of paperboard. This is very interesting too, https://nl.aliexpress.com/store/product/Crocodile-shape-super-clamp-with-both-3-8-male-spigots-photo-studio-film-clamp/1293354_32441815186.html?spm=2114.12010612.0.0.9XHokd never know when you are going to need one! Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tupp Posted April 2, 2017 Share Posted April 2, 2017 7 hours ago, IronFilm said: Think I'll go with this one:https://www.aliexpress.com/item/PRO-3-4m-Combo-Stand-Tripod-load-40kg-for-Spotlight-5K-HMI-4K-M40/32796936968.html Looks like the fittings might be die cast. They could fatigue early. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronFilm Posted April 3, 2017 Author Share Posted April 3, 2017 17 hours ago, tupp said: Looks like the fittings might be die cast. Why do you think this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tupp Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 Black paint and clean, sharp edges. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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