jonpais Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 My videos are coming out cherry red on YouTube. I edit in FCP X, use Mpeg Streamclip to convert to QuickTime, h.264, 45Mbps, high quality, 24 fps... Top: Master, Bottom: YouTube Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webrunner5 Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 Well when I click on the bottom picture to make it full sized I think it looks about perfect. Certainly better. Well your neck area looks too Red, but if you fix that problem your face will be ashen looking. Hell, maybe you Are a Redneck! By the way I am looking at this on a 30" sIPS 2k monitor that has been calibrated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hijodeibn Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 I see it cherry red as well, probably you need to check white balance in you camera, can you upload a small footage sample so we can play with it in Davinci? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davey Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 Export a master file from FCPX (best quality) and then upload that straight to YouTube. Cut the MPEG Streamclip out of the equation and see what happens. JazzBox, Ivanhurba and jonpais 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webrunner5 Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 Yeah I just looked at the video on YouTube and it is Red as hell. Davey could be onto something. Plus maybe the WB is off a bit like hijodeibn said?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonpais Posted March 23, 2017 Author Share Posted March 23, 2017 8 minutes ago, Davey said: Export a master file from FCPX (best quality) and then upload that straight to YouTube. Cut the MPEG Streamclip out of the equation and see what happens. I'll give that a shot tomorrow. If that doesn't work, I'll try hitting 'share' and exporting directly from FCP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fredrik Lyhne Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 Chrome Safari Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Andrew Reid Posted March 23, 2017 Administrators Share Posted March 23, 2017 I see similar issues in various players and browsers. EOSHD Pro Color compensates for it a bit but still annoying. Orangenz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonpais Posted March 23, 2017 Author Share Posted March 23, 2017 37 minutes ago, Davey said: Export a master file from FCPX (best quality) and then upload that straight to YouTube. Cut the MPEG Streamclip out of the equation and see what happens. It worked. I just uploaded the Master File, no Mpeg Streamclip, and it looks normal. I wonder if I'm going to have to go ahead and re-upload 100 of my videos? Here's the one I just uploaded straight from the Master. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Andrew Reid Posted March 23, 2017 Administrators Share Posted March 23, 2017 What is MPEG Streamclip doing differently to mess up colour? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davey Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 6 minutes ago, Andrew Reid said: I see similar issues in various players and browsers. EOSHD Pro Color compensates for it a bit but still annoying. Computer industry should be ashamed. Safari and Chrome display/render colours (particularly red) differently on the same displays for some reason. I also find there is a difference in overall exposure sometimes, or at least it appears that way due possibly to what happens to particular dominant colours. kaylee 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonpais Posted March 23, 2017 Author Share Posted March 23, 2017 2 minutes ago, Andrew Reid said: What is MPEG Streamclip doing differently to mess up colour? Not sure. Maybe I've seen this problem in the past, but didn't pay enough attention. Bad thing is, I've got to check all my earlier videos. Good thing is it's quicker to drag and drop master file than to process with Mpeg Streamclip. I've been doing it that way for years. OMG! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Andrew Reid Posted March 23, 2017 Administrators Share Posted March 23, 2017 I've had this with stills as well, not just video files. kaylee 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
austinchimp Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 I have found an improvement using x264 as opposed to h264, but yeah, there's certainly an issue and I haven't found a good way around it. Uploading prores files directly also seems to help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivanhurba Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 @jonpais export with MP4 from FCPX, youtube won't reencode the video and will be uploaded in a matter of seconds. It should fix the issue if the export is correct. If you don't have the setting, get Compressor and create one. Just for the peace of mind will be worth it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davey Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 3 hours ago, jonpais said: Not sure. Maybe I've seen this problem in the past, but didn't pay enough attention. Bad thing is, I've got to check all my earlier videos. Good thing is it's quicker to drag and drop master file than to process with Mpeg Streamclip. I've been doing it that way for years. OMG! Yeah, was wondering why the extra step. I only ever use the master file. YouTube do enough video wrecking without inviting anybody else to have a go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivanhurba Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 I'm a retard. I see the problem. Skip h264 or x264. upload prores like Austinchimp said in master file as Davey suggested. Don't let apple encode your h264 videos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcs Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 This is a problem with Color Profile handling which can affect color, saturation, and contrast (gamma). Adobe finally fixed their handling of it for stills with the latest version of Photoshop CC 2017. You can see it by going to File / Export / Export As, select JPG, then click Color Space / Convert to sRGB. Your image will become too red with a magenta shift. Then click Embed Color Profile and it will look correct. In OSX, if you select an MP4 and hit space, the image is undersaturated and flat (same with QuickTime Player). Then right-click and select VLC to playback (you've installed it, right?), and it looks closer to correct- saturation and contrast. As you've noticed, some browsers handle Color Profiles correctly, some don't. Knowing this, you'll see why it's important to have your final output as 'centered' as possible so when viewed on an 'off' device (including crazy TV settings such as "Vivid"), your material still looks reasonable. The reason this hasn't been fixed is it's a complex problem, and most end users aren't even aware there's an issue. When color grading, your eyes can become accustomed to 'wrong' colors, and until others point out the issues, you won't even know there's an issue. That's why calibrated monitors are important, and why looking away from the screen periodically, and at others images periodically (with completely different colors, especially complementary colors), during grading to keep your eye-brain color system from becoming OK (accommodated) with 'off' colors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotchtape Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 That and the Nvidia 16-255 or 0-255 default setting that makes your videos look weird between Adobe Premiere and VLC/Chrome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonpais Posted March 24, 2017 Author Share Posted March 24, 2017 I should say the reason I was using MPEG Streamclip is that it was recommended to me years back when I was still shooting with the Panasonic TMC900 camcorder. I also used to have problems with colors becoming desaturated when uploading to YouTube, and being able to select x264 in MPEG Streamclip pretty much solved the problem. MPEG Streamclip also reduces file sizes, greatly reducing upload times. For example, a recent 16GB clip was pared down to less than 2GB in MPEG Streamclip. Uploading the original Master Files to YouTube will take a great more time. As far as quality goes, aside from the improvement in color (no more cherry red skin), my YouTube videos with and without MPEG look virtually identical. I did a quick check of my older videos and can see they are more red, but not enough to make me go ahead and re-upload each and every single video a second time. I will also try exporting my next finished project directly to YouTube from inside FCP and see if the colors are true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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