Giulio Dimitri Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 Hello! maybe you already talked about this, but can't find where. What is the difference between this http://forum.mflenses.com/userpix/20099/455_ISCORAMA_M42_1.jpghttp://forum.mflenses.com/userpix/20099/455_ISCORAMA_M42_1.jpg and this http://www.eoshd.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/IMG_1496.jpg for instance, between the well known iscorama 36 (labeled iscorama - anamorphot - 1.5x - 36 - isco gottingen) and the iscorama (labeled iscorama - lens made in germany - serial number - isco gottingen) you can find in several mounts? thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Andrew Reid Posted March 13, 2013 Administrators Share Posted March 13, 2013 First link broken. 2nd link shows my mutli-coated Iscorama 36. The original "Iscorama" has a smaller 30mm rear element instead of 36mm and came together with a Isco 50mm F2.8 taking lens in variety of mounts (i.e. M42, Nikon, etc.). It is single coated, not multi-coated. Flares nicely, and coverage is about the same despite the smaller rear element. Usable out to 24mm on the GH3, 30mm (2x crop) on the GH2 (1.86x crop), 35mm on APS-C and 50mm on full frame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giulio Dimitri Posted March 13, 2013 Author Share Posted March 13, 2013 brilliant.Thanks Andrew. So, the "other iscorama" may be considered made out of the same quality of the iscorama 36.It is much easier to find though, i'm chasing one on ebay not cosmetically perfect and untested.hope it's not a piece of crap.What is the best way to couple it with a taking lens?redstan adapter, or a couple of spacers and a step down ring? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richg101 Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 I have one labelled 'iscorama - anamorphot - 1.5x - 36 - isco gottingen' on the front and it has a distinctly different front element colour to your above photo of Andrews isco36. Mine has a very faint amber coating, no blue or purple to be seen on mine. I have seen ones labelled like mine and the same as on image of Andrews, but with 'MC' added to the labelling. These had a blue coating like the above image. I wonder if Andrews has newer glass in an older body? Or they were using the older front printed rings without 'MC' on them during a transition from the manufacture of single and multi coated versions? I suppose being hand made in smaller numbers they will have been less continuity in parts used?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Andrew Reid Posted March 13, 2013 Administrators Share Posted March 13, 2013 My belief is that when they switched to making the '36' as a stand-alone adapter, they added multi-coating. That is what gives it the blue/purple tint to the front element, whilst the older lenses have the amber tint from just a single coating. Later they added 'MC', but the first ones to have multi-coating were not labeled as having it, leading to some confusion now. I thought I was buying a single coated version because it lacked the 'MC' designation. So it goes something like this... 1968-69 - Iscorama, single coated 70-75 - Iscorama 36, multi-coated From some point in the 70's or 80's they added 'MC' lettering on the front of the lens Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julien Lambert Posted June 10, 2013 Share Posted June 10, 2013 Dear Andrew, Glad to meet someone who knows Iscorama lenses. Can you tell me which Iscorama I do own? I guess it is an "original iscorama" with an Isco 50mm F2,8 lens (nikon). I would like to know what are the different options I have to use this anamorphic element with other lenses on APS-C (usable out to 35mm as you said). - I would like to have closer focus (diopter 0,5 seems a good solution?) - I would like to have 35mm, 50mm (this one i have), 85mm lenses. Which lenses can fit and how? - What about the Redstan's rehoused anamorphic? How much is it? Thanks a lot. Julien Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Andrew Reid Posted June 10, 2013 Administrators Share Posted June 10, 2013 That's the first Iscorama, not the Iscorama 36. Very desirable. Yours is in stunning condition considering it dates to the late 60s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julien Lambert Posted June 10, 2013 Share Posted June 10, 2013 Dear Andrew, Thanks for you answer. If you have time, it would be very kind of you to give me some clues about my questions. Thanks a lot. Julien Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulio Posted June 10, 2013 Share Posted June 10, 2013 Julien, you have a great lens there. the EOS HD anamorphic guide covers a lot of what you are asking. But some quick answers: Yes you will need a diopter for close focus, the tokina 0.4 (rare, goes for about $420 on ebay) is the gold standard, you can also pickup a cheapy set like hoyas +1 +2 to complement it, but the tokina is an proper achromat and actually improves the IQ too. Simple prime lenses work best as the taking lens. Commonly used are vintage russian glass, I use Mir 24, helios, jupiter 9, and the tair. this group gives you a 35mm, a 58mm, 85mm and a 135mm...pretty good coverage :) simple and relatively cheap lenses that work great with your anamorphic adapter. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julien Lambert Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 Paulio, Thank you for your answer. I've just bought the guide. I'll be back after my reading! Julien Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julien Lambert Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 Just a quick question. Is Redstan website still working and is it a good website to buy things? Julien Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulio Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 Redstan aka Alan, or on this forum known as Tony wilson is a great place/person to buy stuff from. Many of us on the forum got our clamps and achromats from him. Not sure if Tony is still in buisness with those items, but you should ask him. If you can't get a red stan clamp, next best thing is the Vid atlantic clamp. The tokina achromats pop up occasionaly on ebay, I am going to be selling one myself next week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julien Lambert Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 Dear Paulio, THank you for your answer. I had an email from Tony. He explained me that he was working on stuff. I would be very interested in your Tokina. Would you sell it to me, how much? Thank you, Julien (you can contact me via MP) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julien Lambert Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 Paulio, Can you send me some pictures to understand how you attached your 35mm and 85mm to your classic Iscorama? I saw the basic Vamp Clamp: ISCO-(49 to 52mm)-(BasicVampClamp 52)-Lenses35/85mm? Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulio Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 I actually just bought four $5 49mm UV filters, smashed out the glass, then I use those as a collar on the taking lens, somtimes i need 1 or 2 sometimes i need 4, depends on the depth of the front element of the taking lens, then I just screw the other end of my uv collar to the isco (my isco has a 49mm rear thread). works well, but I imagine most folks are using redstan clamps. Hope that helps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elubes Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 julien, im not a fan of the vamp clamp. it has metal screws scratching up the body of your iscorama which would depreciate the value if you were to resell. at least try to replace it with some strong plastic screws if the redstans are not available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julien Lambert Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 I'm waiting for the redstan! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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