Geoff CB 765 Report post Posted October 10, 2016 GFILM Made for A7rII, should work on A7s, A7sII, A6300, A6500 EDIT: While it will work on all these cameras, some have been reporting subpar results on the origional a7s due to its slightly different color science. I've only tested myself on the A7r II, results may very slightly on other cameras. I've been trying to give the A7r II a look similar to "Film" on the blackmagic Ursa Mini 4.6K. The need arose because I am shooting with the two camera side by side and need to edit them together. Had a couple goals with this: - Get away from the "Magenta" look - Be able to match with BM "Film" in post - A flat profile that doesn't break when grading like S-log sometimes does, is easier to shoot with, and can get a get a great look with a simple color wheel adjustment. - Don't clip any color channel Let me know what you guys think! Black Level: 0Gamma: S-Log2Black Gamma - Range: Middle - Level: 0Knee: Manual (It blows my mind this is left on Auto by default, it controls how the highlights behave) - point: 77.5% - slope: +3Color Mode: ProSaturation: +3Color Phase: -4Color Depth: (Wish they would let this be adjusted for highlights/midtones/blacks independently) - R: +5 - G: +7 - B: +3 - C: +2 - M: -2 - Y: +2Detail: -7 - Mode: Manual - V/H Balance: 0 - B&W Balance: Type5 - Limit: 3 - Crispening: 3 - Hi-Light Detail: 0 Couple notes on shooting with this: -Always overexpose by at least one stop to get a clean image. -Set WB manually, do not leave on Auto -Shoot at the native ISO of your cameraUPDATE: I've created this correction LUT for viewing on external monitors and to provide a quick correction in post. Keep in mind that this is a correction LUT, and does not replace actual grading, it's just meant to give you a good base. I typically apply this then raise the highlights/exposure further. Please feel free to test and give feedback!https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B0n4afeTfggjamF1TFFna05DdGM All samples shot in FF mode on the A7rII, will post more from the short film when I have permission. (This shot above was underexposed, resulting in noisier blacks) 15 Jimmy, Gokhan Guvenc, webrunner5 and 12 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gregormannschaft 267 Report post Posted October 10, 2016 Those shots look terrific, I'll give it a try on the Sony A7SII - similar settings should produce good results as well right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Geoff CB 765 Report post Posted October 10, 2016 16 minutes ago, Gregormannschaft said: Those shots look terrific, I'll give it a try on the Sony A7SII - similar settings should produce good results as well right? It should look similar on all Sony cameras with S-Log, let me know how it works! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mattias Burling 2,693 Report post Posted October 10, 2016 Cool, Thanks! I tried it quickly with the rx100iv but its dark already and I suspect thats why it turned out a bit weird. Will try in daylight tomorrow and report the results. Always fun to checkout others settings. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Chris 277 Report post Posted October 10, 2016 Those shots look great, especially the first one. I've read up on the Knee and still can't see what changes do to the footage, so I never mess with it. Any chance you can expand on what your change achieved compared to leaving it on auto? Will try this on the a7rII, a6300 and soon the a6500. Thanks! 1 Geoff CB reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheRenaissanceMan 981 Report post Posted October 10, 2016 Looks awesome! I'd love to see how this works for other Sony cameras. Btw, I'm fine with the grittier blacks in the third image because you managed to maintain the sky detail, which wasn't the case in the fourth one. No accounting for taste, I suppose. 1 Geoff CB reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheRenaissanceMan 981 Report post Posted October 10, 2016 5 hours ago, The Chris said: Will try this on the a7rII, a6300 and soon the a6500. Thanks! Definitely share your results on the A6500! I think we're all very interested in how much can be squeezed out of that camera. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tellure 82 Report post Posted October 11, 2016 Looks really cool, thanks for sharing! What kind of grading are you doing on your modified SLOG2 footage? Are you using a LUT or grading manually per shot? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Geoff CB 765 Report post Posted October 11, 2016 5 hours ago, tellure said: Looks really cool, thanks for sharing! What kind of grading are you doing on your modified SLOG2 footage? Are you using a LUT or grading manually per shot? Manual adjustment using the color wheels. Dragging down shadows, raising highlights, and slightly dropping midtones. Add a little saturation and that's it to get a good base. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nrubloc 32 Report post Posted October 30, 2016 Hello... I was wondering if anyone has examples of this profile used with the A7Rii under tungsten or other types of mixed lighting conditions rather than just the above daylight examples. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Geoff CB 765 Report post Posted November 30, 2016 Will have video comparison up soon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jim Giberti 106 Report post Posted December 2, 2016 Didn't mean to step on the other thread Geoff. By the way, our first studios were on the other side of the Cape from you in Orleans. 1 Geoff CB reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Geoff CB 765 Report post Posted December 2, 2016 1 hour ago, Jim Giberti said: Didn't mean to step on the other thread Geoff. By the way, our first studios were on the other side of the Cape from you in Orleans. That's very cool, where are your studios now? Hope the profile works well for your work. I look forward to trying out the H Hijmering's LUTs you suggested for Blackmagic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joe3 6 Report post Posted December 2, 2016 On 10/10/2016 at 9:54 AM, Geoff CB said: GFILM Made for A7rII, should work on A7s, A7sII, A6300, A6500, FS5, FS7. I've been trying to give the A7r II a look similar to "Film" on the blackmagic Ursa Mini 4.6K. The need arose because I am shooting with the two camera side by side and need to edit them together. Had a couple goals with this: - Get away from the "Magenta" look - Be able to match with BM "Film" in post - A flat profile that doesn't break when grading like S-log sometimes does, is easier to shoot with, and can get a get a great look with a simple color wheel adjustment. - Don't clip any color channel Let me know what you guys think! Black Level: 0Gamma: Slog2Black Gamma - Range: Middle - Level: 0Knee: Manual (It blows my mind this is left on Auto by default, it controls how the highlights behave) - point: 77.5% - slope: +3Color Mode: ProSaturation: +3Color Phase: -4Color Depth: (Wish they would let this be adjusted for highlights/midtones/blacks independently) - R: +5 - G: +3 (Edit: +7 works better to get deeper greens) - B: +3 - C: +2 - M: -2 - Y: +2Detail: -7 - Mode: Manual - V/H Balance: 0 - B&W Balance: Type5 - Limit: 3 - Crispening: 3 - Hi-Light Detail: 0 Couple notes on shooting with this: -Always overexpose by at least one stop to get a clean image. -Set WB manually, do not leave on Auto -Shoot at the native ISO of your camera All samples shot in FF mode on the A7rII, will post more from the short film when I have permission. (This shot above was underexposed, resulting in noisier blacks) Looks Great. I substituted Cine 2 in place of S-Log2 for a test. Looks pretty good straight out of the camera. What do you think about that? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jim Giberti 106 Report post Posted December 2, 2016 Our studios and offices are in the forest now...actually on our mountainside farm in VT but on their own 200 acre retreat. And I'd be curious to hear your opinion of the HH LUT on your footage. We've used about every post option for film mode in Pro Res and raw and these are in a whole other league than anything else IMO...almost plug and play. And there's a series of four with increasing saturation at conversion that's a nice option. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigfoot 41 Report post Posted December 2, 2016 looking forwards to test this out... Thank you Goeff Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Geoff CB 765 Report post Posted December 2, 2016 14 hours ago, Joe3 said: Looks Great. I substituted Cine 2 in place of S-Log2 for a test. Looks pretty good straight out of the camera. What do you think about that? Saw your test on the other page, looks pretty good! Will have to give it a try myself. 51 minutes ago, bigfoot said: looking forwards to test this out... Thank you Goeff Your welcome! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Geoff CB 765 Report post Posted December 2, 2016 Testing out some new lights/diffusers. Diffuser on setting sun camera left (can see unfiltered on my arm), LED light camera me some pop/fill. Only grading I did in Resolve was adjusting Lift and Gain. No color adjustment. 5600K with Voightlander 40mm Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigfoot 41 Report post Posted December 3, 2016 Skin tone is looking great - Healthy ! 2 tomsemiterrific and Geoff CB reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jim Giberti 106 Report post Posted December 3, 2016 So, this is your settings w/S-Log2 and what gamut? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites