jcs Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYmrhWl8wmM 1DX II, A7S II, C300 II, shot side by side (not shown in that order). Settings (all set to 4800K WB, 1/48 or 1/50 shutter): 1DX II: Canon 24-105 F4L at 105mm, F5.6, ISO 400, Faithful profile (with contrast turned down), 1080p IPB (~32Mbps) A7S II: Canon 24-105 F4L (+MB IV), 105mm, F5.6, ISO 1600, Slog 2 + SGamut3.cine + 16 Sat, 4K 100Mbps C300 II: Canon 24-70 F2.8 II at 70mm, F5.6, ISO 400, Canon Log 2, Cinema gamut, Production Matrix (Alexa-LUT-compatible settings), 1080p 50Mbps IPB Spent only a few minutes keying and matching the shots (PP CC Lumetri + Ultra Key). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tugela Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 Not a whole lot of difference. I asked an associate at work what he thought, and to him they all looked the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcs Posted May 9, 2016 Author Share Posted May 9, 2016 2 minutes ago, tugela said: Not a whole lot of difference. I asked an associate at work what he thought, and to him they all looked the same. Cool, thx for the feedback. Looks they can work together for multicam shoots without too much post work. kidzrevil 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunk Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 A7s II, C300 II, 1DX II. motivation: lipstick of 2 an 3 have the same color. 3 best detail. kaylee and jcs 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eklektikkarga Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 if we look at the skin color first and second camera is the same brand. So i guess 1dxmii, c300mii, a7sii. if we look at the contrast so a7sii, c300mii, 1dxmii. Really interesting test. jcs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBounce Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 This test is meaningless. The setting on all three cameras are completely different. Plus they chose to shoot 4k with the Sony and 1080p with the Canons. See the post here. From the original post. Quote 1DX II, A7S II, C300 II, shot side by side (not shown in that order). Settings (all set to 4800K WB, 1/48 or 1/50 shutter): 1DX II: Canon 24-105 F4L at 105mm, F5.6, ISO 400, Faithful profile (with contrast turned down), 1080p IPB (~32Mbps) A7S II: Canon 24-105 F4L (+MB IV), 105mm, F5.6, ISO 1600, Slog 2 + SGamut3.cine + 16 Sat, 4K 100Mbps C300 II: Canon 24-70 F2.8 II at 70mm, F5.6, ISO 400, Canon Log 2, Cinema gamut, Production Matrix (Alexa-LUT-compatible settings), 1080p 50Mbps IPB Spent only a few minutes keying and matching the shots (PP CC Lumetri + Ultra Key). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilmMan Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 JCS - You look attractive with a blonde wig and glossy lipstick. Just kidding. Only see differences if looking closely. Dress 2 and 3 - close color match. Pink bracelet - closer match on 1 and 2. And so on. Vast majority will not see any differences. Keep up the good work. Cheers. jcs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Members Mattias Burling Posted May 10, 2016 Super Members Share Posted May 10, 2016 7 hours ago, tugela said: Not a whole lot of difference. I asked an associate at work what he thought, and to him they all looked the same. So you didn't notice the 4K vs HD? I thought you said that you could always tell... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcs Posted May 10, 2016 Author Share Posted May 10, 2016 5 hours ago, DBounce said: This test is meaningless. The setting on all three cameras are completely different. Plus they chose to shoot 4k with the Sony and 1080p with the Canons. See the post here. From the original post. This was our test to see how easy it would be to match these cameras. How would you make the camera settings more equivalent? Mattias Burling 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaylee Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 9 hours ago, jcs said: Looks they can work together for multicam shoots without too much post work. they definitely can. good work, thanks for sharing this so which canon is which? id be interested in knowing which take on the lipstick color/reds/oranges is most accurate jcs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 Skin tones on the right are a bit grey ... could be the Sony or the new colour science on the 1dxii Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaylee Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 9 hours ago, bunk said: A7s II, C300 II, 1DX II. motivation: lipstick of 2 an 3 have the same color. 3 best detail. oh cool i missed this. so is this correct jcs? clearly the sony is on the left lol. look at that magenta lipstick! still, in spite of that skin tones are v reasonable jcs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunk Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 some small adjustment (to the sony footage ?) and you can't keep them apart. TheRenaissanceMan, kaylee and jcs 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBounce Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 4 hours ago, jcs said: This was our test to see how easy it would be to match these cameras. How would you make the camera settings more equivalent? Well in that case you may have come about as close as possible. But why the different resolutions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicolas MAILLET Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 Jcs that's a good point. Those 3 pictures looks almost the same... There are differences of course, like colors, and resolution but hey, this proves there's no need to fight when speaking about cameras. My preferred goes to the one on the center. If it is the A7SII i'm glad i chose that camera. And if it is not the A7SII, i'm happy too because everyone here can't tell which is which while being 100% affirmative... jcs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgharding Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 They match well under these conditions! The left-hand camera has rendered the reds in the lipstick with more blue so I'd guess Sony, but it's evidently not so hard to match them when they're not being used at extremes, that's good news. jcs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tugela Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 13 hours ago, Mattias Burling said: So you didn't notice the 4K vs HD? I thought you said that you could always tell... On my 720p laptop, of course not. It is all 720p. And in any case, resolution is less of an issue with large objects that fill much of the screen because your eye is looking at the macro scale. It is a problem when the object of attention fills a small part of the screen, such as someone a way back from the camera. At lower resolutions such objects degenerate into blobs, with good 4K it maintains enough detail to still look realistic. Anyone who shoots video should be aware of this, so how come you don't know it? What is your problem? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Members Mattias Burling Posted May 10, 2016 Super Members Share Posted May 10, 2016 Its just funny that you failed at it after the countless posts about how superior 4K is on any screen, how you always can tell, etc. That's all, no problem, just a good laugh. Snowfun 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forofilms Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 All three look like mushy garbage. I'm saving my money until 6k comes out... mkabi 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
independent Posted May 11, 2016 Share Posted May 11, 2016 I appreciate the test. But it is somewhat exhibiting the lowest common denominator. They would all seem close if that's what you're aiming to do. What would be neat is another test of the three cameras showing their strengths in challenging conditions. High contrast scene testing max dynamic range, low-light testing noise, a moving subject to test autofocus, etc. But, appreciate the test nonetheless. DBounce 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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