kidzrevil Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 @Andrew Reid ugh I forgot about that ! Vimeo is ad free ! Is it just me or has youtube advertising gotten a little more aggressive lately ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cantsin Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 For non-commercial videos under Creative Commons or public domain licenses, archive.org is an alternative. It's a non-profit platform, dedicated to long-term preservation of media (and a great resource of freely reusable footage, images and audio btw.), is ad-free, has a calm interface and similarly elaborate download options as Vimeo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 So... if I switched to youtube, my biggest concern is I feel like I'd never be able to get my videos even close to the right audience or be able to discover other decent filmmakers in the same way. Tips on how to use youtube more like vimeo in that sense? Is there an equivalent to "groups" that I'm not seeing? On youtube I just always feel like the views I get were accidental clicks by people looking for.. you know, bad videos. kidzrevil, webrunner5 and zerocool22 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidzrevil Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 Same...its hard to get into youtube for filmmaking. Its great for finding copyrighted stuff and funny videos though? @Liam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdouthit Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 In the last year Vimeo has moved a lot of their focus to business use (white-label and Sony Ci-like video proofing) which will not be counted since they're on private pages. In addition, most video is viewed in Apps (mobile) and increasingly on TVs. As such, their public numbers will likely decline even if their viewership increases. Alexa is a poor measure in this area. I think Vimeo's move towards business is a good one. We dropped Ci and are now paying Vimeo more than $1000/year for proofing and video hosting for our TV apps (multiple accounts). There's a lot more money to be had for them here than in hosting personal passion projects. kidzrevil 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidzrevil Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 @rdouthit that makes a lot of sense when you put it that way ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neumann Films Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 It's not that complicated. I haven't been able to watch a 1080p video on Vimeo without buffer in 5 years. I have 1GB internet. That's like not being able to eat food at a restaurant. Best of all, in Vimeo's case you still need to pay the bill when you leave. Great business model. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axel Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 On 31.1.2018 at 11:06 PM, Liam said: So... if I switched to youtube, my biggest concern is I feel like I'd never be able to get my videos even close to the right audience or be able to discover other decent filmmakers in the same way. Tips on how to use youtube more like vimeo in that sense? Is there an equivalent to "groups" that I'm not seeing? On youtube I just always feel like the views I get were accidental clicks by people looking for.. you know, bad videos. I don't know about the "bad videos". As we all know, Youtube filters the millions of clips according to your own viewing habits. I see my special interests reflected in the suggestions Youtube offers me when I open it. I do not have to search for the needle in the haystack. The less I fall for presumed clickbaits, the more nuggets appear beneath all this crap. They are there, and in bigger quantities than on Vimeo, where everything looks so decent at first glance, but turns out to be pretentious crap later, and mostly boring. I like the idea of the open secret. Something that's already there and waits to be discovered. If it's any good, more are likely to find it sooner or later. I recently saw an analysis of The Exorcist by Rob Ager (accidentally, didn't look for it, because I wouldn't have had an idea about it in the first place). He argues that there is an open secret about this film, ignored by practically everybody, but impossible to ignore once you view the film again. The girl had been sexually abused and has suppressed this experience. Her "possession" is the answer. Over-interpreted? Look it up! What is needed is a guide on how to place one's own clips in Youtube so that they are found by the right audience. And, in general, you should be able to improve the quality. Pay for higher bitrates or better compression? Why not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonpais Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 3 hours ago, Neumann Films said: It's not that complicated. I haven't been able to watch a 1080p video on Vimeo without buffer in 5 years. I have 1GB internet. That's like not being able to eat food at a restaurant. Best of all, in Vimeo's case you still need to pay the bill when you leave. Great business model. Same here. I dread playing Vimeo because of the long buffer times.almost said ‘long buffet lines’. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zerocool22 Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 I honestly never had those buffer issues. I prefer vimeo for playing everything. Youtube sometimes plays the video's at a lower resolution automatically. I really hate to restart the video and then adjust the resolution to max. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hansel Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 For me its pretty much dead. Player 90% of the times crashes when I try to change bandwith setting to play in 1080. Sometimes it does not play at all. I mean this is at their core business, playing videos, no matter for business or hobby... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Andrew Reid Posted February 2, 2018 Administrators Share Posted February 2, 2018 1 hour ago, zerocool22 said: I honestly never had those buffer issues. I prefer vimeo for playing everything. Youtube sometimes plays the video's at a lower resolution automatically. I really hate to restart the video and then adjust the resolution to max. Yes this is crap about YouTube, it should remember your connection speed each time and only drop the quality if your connection is suddenly a lot slower or you are downloading a 100GB game patch on Steam in the background Vimeo meanwhile, I agree with all the comments about their reliability... It's pretty shocking. I don't know how such a well funded and successful business can continue to neglect the basic fact that they need to deliver their core business....Streaming. Videos. Smoothly! I suppose there is a balance to be had between YouTube's pixilated first 10 seconds and Vimeo's 10 minute wait before even one frame moves. webrunner5, hansel and Neumann Films 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Sewell Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 Thank you to all who have resurrected this thread - you reminded me that I have to cancel my Vimeo plan before the end of the month! TwoScoops, zerocool22 and webrunner5 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronFilm Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 On 2/2/2018 at 11:47 PM, Axel said: What is needed is a guide on how to place one's own clips in Youtube so that they are found by the right audience. YouTube SEO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronFilm Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 Unfortunately YouTube is turning pretty bad. Google ditched their "Don't Be Evil" motto a long time ago :-( Jonesy Jones and User 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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