Ed_David Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 Doing a short film - don't leak this please - color charts - then I mucked it up to feel like fuji eterna 16mm fuji film.Camera going 4:2:2 8-bit hdmi into odyssey recorderColor charts are everything as a starting point. Dean, Zach Ashcraft, Andrew Reid and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zach Ashcraft Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 These look great. Lens? You may be onto something with this color chart nonsense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Policar Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 What did you use for the grade? Resolve? Any LUTs or film convert? What grain? Looks very nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_David Posted December 10, 2015 Author Share Posted December 10, 2015 I normalized. Messed with color contrast highlights lowered. Added film grain. Added blue in shadows. Contrast. A whole bunch of messing around to make it feel like fiji eterna. Camera is great in everything but crappy fluorescent lighting. Sensor stabilization is a miracle. Would rate it at 400 iso for clean video. Shot with 7 to 14mm olympus pro lensWas a body rig....snorticam attached to actor. Paniko 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 Fantastic, thanks for sharing Ed. Your other post got me investigating colour charts.One question... are you using an ND filter with the 7-14? If so how are you attaching it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzynormal Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 Nice looking images; confirms my experiences with the EM5II. Out of the box you're not going to get the ideal motion picture images from it, but a little manipulation in cam and in post you can make it look very respectable.I dunno. I've found it more than capable. Others not so much. As for the film...I want to know what's in the case. It's Marsellus Wallace's soul, right? ;-) Ed_David and kidzrevil 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_David Posted December 11, 2015 Author Share Posted December 11, 2015 There is some random ND solution for the lens but I didn't think of buying it in time.So we shot in daylight at 200 ISO it's lowest setting and a f-stop around 5.6 or 8. This is how people used to shoot outside, at f/8 - like the westerns. But of course it is not ideal, but using tape or gaffer nd to the lens, well it's rigged to the guys body so didn't really want to try that.But maybe tomorrow I'm bring a few pieces of ND and try taping to the lens - maybe a horrible idea.The camera is good going out 4:2:2 8-bit, but internal codec is h.264, best setting is intraframe h.264 and I felt it didn't have enough resolution or it had some kind of weird softness to the camera.Shot day 2 today - went really well - a bunch of interiors, playing with light.Again still think this is mostly a 400 ISO camera to get decent results. After the A7S which is clean up to I think 2000 ISO, it's an interesting test. The moire on this guy is pretty bad. I think most micro 4/3rd sensors suffer from this issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DPC Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 Can I ask why you're using this camera?My solution to the ND problem was to use Metabones + Tokina 11-16 (instead of the 7-14). At least that way you can use regular flat filters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_David Posted December 11, 2015 Author Share Posted December 11, 2015 The problem is the snorricam rig is attached to the actor and he's wearing it 10 hours a day - so every pound is multiplied by 3x and it's going into his back, not his chest - so it really digs it hard. It's super painful. We did it with the metabones ultra and a Tokina lens and it added about 1.5 lbs in weight - so it added x 3 about 6 lbs in weight which made it really heavy for him. The ergonomics of this snorricam rig from the back like from a video game 3rd person perspective is super super tiring. I could only last in my tests for about 20 minutes before I started to feel serious fatigue, and he's running, moving up and down, moving everywhere - it's a super demanding rig, and the actor is not a stunt person who worked out his lumbar area for a month prior to the shoot.Why to use the Olympus - because It's a short film commissioned by Olympus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DPC Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 Ed, thanks for that! Sounds like an excellent reason for using Olympus cameras ;-)Please keep sharing your experience : I love my EM5 MK 2 for stills and suspect that, if I just tried hard enough, there might be some way to usefully use it for film making, despite its shortcomings... Yes, fizzy codec and moiré... Ed_David 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgreszcz Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 I had the filter holder for the o7-14/2.8 printed from: http://www.7-14filter.com/I just got the lens yesterday, so didn't have time to test it yet.Looking forward to the film, Ed, and hopefully you can give the client some feedback to continue to improve the camera for video shooting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_David Posted December 12, 2015 Author Share Posted December 12, 2015 stills day 3.Lesson learned the hard way - use the on camera histogram - anything underexposed will have really bad chroma macroblocking or something random. Neatvideo can't clean this up.Also I wish I had more time to do underexposure and overexposure tests.I think it can be clean up to 640 ISO - I don't know actually that well.Shoot is done. Film should be ready early next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidzrevil Posted January 2, 2016 Share Posted January 2, 2016 stills day 3.Lesson learned the hard way - use the on camera histogram - anything underexposed will have really bad chroma macroblocking or something random. Neatvideo can't clean this up.Also I wish I had more time to do underexposure and overexposure tests.I think it can be clean up to 640 ISO - I don't know actually that well.Shoot is done. Film should be ready early next year. that perspective is beautiful. Master composition for real Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flaaandeeers Posted January 2, 2016 Share Posted January 2, 2016 Looks really good, Ed. Looking forward to seeing the short film. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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