AaronChicago Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 I guess they updated the "production" model, because all of the specs, I have seen, show no Raw 60p with the GS. You'd think they'd update their specs... That a major improvement. I think 60p is only in RS if I'm not mistaken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercer Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 I think 60p is only in RS if I'm not mistaken.That's what I had thought too, but Forsman said he received confirmation from Kroll that there is Raw 60p GS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zak Forsman Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 No, sorry, no mention of global shutter in that scenario. It was just a question of whether the current crop of approved SD cards could handle the increased 60p RAW datarate.My guess is global shutter is not activated on the BMMCC that Noam Kroll received. Nor has it been activated on any of the URSA Minis out in the wild.It's likely the testers have been asked not to confirm its absence. When asked about it they all couch their answers with responses like "this footage was shot in rolling shutter mode". Since this is the one feature conspicuously absent from any and all test footage, it's safe to assume, its implementation is the cause for the late arrival of these cameras. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercer Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 No, sorry, no mention of global shutter in that scenario. It was just a question of whether the current crop of approved SD cards could handle the increased 60p RAW datarate.My guess is global shutter is not activated on the BMMCC that Noam Kroll received. Nor has it been activated on any of the URSA Minis out in the wild.This is the one feature conspicuously absent from any and all test footage, so it's safe to assume, its implementation is the cause for the late arrival of these cameras.No, my bad... Major brain fart. I think I want 60p GS, so I read what I wanted from your comment. Liam 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercer Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 What are the chances SmallHD or one of the other 3rd Party equipment manufacturers will make a cage that integrates an external monitor with the BMMCC for a more unified rig, set up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil A Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 What are the chances SmallHD or one of the other 3rd Party equipment manufacturers will make a cage that integrates an external monitor with the BMMCC for a more unified rig, set up?Buy whatever cage, put SmallHD 502 / BMD VideoAssist / ... on top, done. What exactly would you expect to be specific about the cage for the BMMCC? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercer Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 I am hoping somebody will make a cage that will have a back swivel attachment. The camera is so small, I'd like to keep the footprint as small as possible... Otherwise what's the point? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil A Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 I am hoping somebody will make a cage that will have a back swivel attachment. The camera is so small, I'd like to keep the footprint as small as possible... Otherwise what's the point?I just looked at the cages which are already available/announced and at least with the SmallHD monitors you'd have the issue that the HDMI port is on the back so you'd need a cable with a 90° plug or it would bump straight into the battery. A possibility (when using a 90! plug) I see and would consider is, that you could put the screen on top and use it like the waist level finder of a MF camera but also then flip it up so it sits on top back of the camera and pointing straight up. I'm at work so I'm slightly limited in creative tooling but I've made this "scientifically absolutely accurate drawing" in Excel to express what I mean. The SmallHD 500 monitors have threads on the bottom, back and top so you have some flexibility. You could also put something on top of the camera cage like a little plate that stands out to the back and then mount the monitor top down, it can automatically flip the image. mercer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zak Forsman Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 I have the Wooden Camera cage for my forthcoming BMMCC and wanted an elegant monitor solution. Here's what i did...You can buy SmallHD's Pan/Tilt mount for $60 which I love because, unlike a Noga arm, it doesn't require two hands to adjust the position. pick up a cold shoe adapter from SmallRig for $10 so you can mount it to the cage and voila!Pan/Tilt Mount - http://store.smallhd.com/store/500-accessories/500-700-pan-tilt-mountCold Shoe Adapter - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00HJFBUCQI usually keep it on a rail block (seen behind the camera in the pic above) but it's easily moved anywhere I have one of those cold shoe adapters mounted. So I can easily strip things down to just the camera, cage, top handle and monitor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AaronChicago Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 This would be a good option as well for a cage. http://www.ebay.com/itm/DSLR-Video-Camera-Cage-Stabilizer-Rig-with-Wooden-Handle-for-Canon-Nikon-Sony-/272086620613?hash=item3f59a059c5:g:8IkAAOSwYaFWfPrX mercer, richg101 and Cinegain 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercer Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 I was thinking about a small, tripod head that has the 90 degree horizontal to vertical hinge. or literally just a hinge bolted to the top of the cage and replace the pin with a bolt and wing nut so you can tighten it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinegain Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 I think something like this could perhaps be nice: Phil A 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richg101 Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 This would be a good option as well for a cage. http://www.ebay.com/itm/DSLR-Video-Camera-Cage-Stabilizer-Rig-with-Wooden-Handle-for-Canon-Nikon-Sony-/272086620613?hash=item3f59a059c5:g:8IkAAOSwYaFWfPrXLove it!, only problem... the dumb asses made it with the hand grip on the wrong side! I'd have bought that straight away if it was reversed correctly:( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonesy Jones Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 Maybe your joking, but isn't it designed to go on either side? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squig Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 I'm going with the wooden camera micro cage because the speed booster support foot is an essential accessory for me. Solid lens mount for focus pulling and fast gimbal flying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zak Forsman Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 yeah, i'm using both on my pocket right now and WC speedbooster foot keeps things rock solid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinegain Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 Maybe your joking, but isn't it designed to go on either side?Well, the eBay listing indeed sells it with the left hand grip...My cut n pasted in photoshop render had a right hand grip from this image:->With pivoting VA & 8Sinn cage/handleWouldn't make it wildly different from something like this: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xavier Plagaro Mussard Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 Maybe your joking, but isn't it designed to go on either side?Yes, it seems to be reversible! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan Lee Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 With a SmallHD monitor with Sidefinder mounted to the side of a BMMCC, you could end up with a form factor similar to a Director's Viewfinder perhaps? mercer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercer Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 I just looked at the cages which are already available/announced and at least with the SmallHD monitors you'd have the issue that the HDMI port is on the back so you'd need a cable with a 90° plug or it would bump straight into the battery. A possibility (when using a 90! plug) I see and would consider is, that you could put the screen on top and use it like the waist level finder of a MF camera but also then flip it up so it sits on top back of the camera and pointing straight up. I'm at work so I'm slightly limited in creative tooling but I've made this "scientifically absolutely accurate drawing" in Excel to express what I mean. The SmallHD 500 monitors have threads on the bottom, back and top so you have some flexibility. You could also put something on top of the camera cage like a little plate that stands out to the back and then mount the monitor top down, it can automatically flip the image.I am thinking something along these lines but I would rather it swivel down. Am also thinking an EVF may be a good solution as well. I saw a 3" EVF on eBay that sells for around 200 bucks. I'm still weighing my options and wondering if they will lower the cost of the pocket once the micro is released. If they do, I may just get one of those instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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