Ed David

Maybe the dopamine hits of social media are to blame?
Is there a point anymore for a young twenty-year-old Herzog circa 2021 to beg, scrape, and steal to make a film?  When you can just make a tik-tok?  Get a million followers.  Move on?
Maybe social media takes away precious free-time that you need to concentrate to come up with, as David Lynch says, "catching the big fish?" 
Or maybe the social anxiety of life pre-Covid - the mental-health insanity of it all - left little time to be happy and creative?
Or maybe with the movie theatres all about to die and the rise of netflix and movies being "content" as Scorsese calls it - maybe that has sapped everything that forces someone to work so hard to make their own feature.
For me I was born in 1981, and movies were the only thing I knew up even past college in 2003 when I could have started a filmmaking career. Netflix was just a mail-order DVD service. There was no social media yet, except maybe Friendster.
Now nearly twenty years later - what do young people who want to say things do?  Do they have that precious time to be creative?
Especially now when in 2021 young people graduate with hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt vs the 1970s when young people had barely any debt and could have a decent life and buy a home with little money and had room to wander and explore?

Maybe the dopamine hits of social media are to blame?
Is there a point anymore for a young twenty-year-old Herzog circa 2021 to beg, scrape, and steal to make a film?  When you can just make a tik-tok?  Get a million followers.  Move on?
Maybe social media takes away precious free-time that you need to concentrate to come up with, as David Lynch says, "catching the big fish?" 
Or maybe the social anxiety of life pre-Covid - the mental-health insanity of it all - left little time to be happy and creative?
Or maybe with the movie theatres all about to die and the rise of netflix and movies being "content" as Scorsese calls it - maybe that has sapped everything that forces someone to work so hard to make their own feature.
For me I was born in 1981, and movies were the only thing I knew up even past college in 2003 when I could have started a filmmaking career. Netflix was just a mail-order DVD service. There was no social media yet, except maybe Friendster.
Now nearly twenty years later - what do young people who want to say things do?  Do they have that precious time to be creative?
Especially now when in 2021 young people graduate with hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt vs the 1970s when young people had barely any debt and could have a decent life and buy a home with little money and had room to wander and explore?

Maybe the dopamine hits of social media are to blame?
Is there a point anymore for a young twenty-year-old Herzog circa 2021 to beg, scrape, and steal to make a film?  When you can just make a tik-tok?  Get a million followers.  Move on?
Maybe social media takes away precious free-time that you need to concentrate to come up with, as David Lynch says, "catching the big fish?" 
Or maybe the social anxiety of life pre-Covid - the mental-health insanity of it all - left little time to be happy and creative?
Or maybe with the movie theatres all about to die and the rise of netflix and movies being "content" as Scorsese calls it - maybe that has sapped everything that forces someone to work so hard to make their own feature.
For me I was born in 1981, and movies were the only thing I knew up even past college in 2003 when I could have started a filmmaking career. Netflix was just a mail-order DVD service. There was no social media yet, except maybe Friendster.
Now nearly twenty years later - what do young people who want to say things do?  Do they have that precious time to be creative?
Especially now when in 2021 young people graduate with hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt vs the 1970s when young people had barely any debt and could have a decent life and buy a home with little money and had room to wander and explore?

Maybe the dopamine hits of social media are to blame?
Is there a point anymore for a young twenty-year-old Herzog circa 2021 to beg, scrape, and steal to make a film?  When you can just make a tik-tok?  Get a million followers.  Move on?
Maybe social media takes away precious free-time that you need to concentrate to come up with, as David Lynch says, "catching the big fish?" 
Or maybe the social anxiety of life pre-Covid - the mental-health insanity of it all - left little time to be happy and creative?
Or maybe with the movie theatres all about to die and the rise of netflix and movies being "content" as Scorsese calls it - maybe that has sapped everything that forces someone to work so hard to make their own feature.
For me I was born in 1981, and movies were the only thing I knew up even past college in 2003 when I could have started a filmmaking career. Netflix was just a mail-order DVD service. There was no social media yet, except maybe Friendster.
Now nearly twenty years later - what do young people who want to say things do?  Do they have that precious time to be creative?
Especially now when in 2021 young people graduate with hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt vs the 1970s when young people had barely any debt and could have a decent life and buy a home with little money and had room to wander and explore?

Maybe the dopamine hits of social media are to blame?
Is there a point anymore for a young twenty-year-old Herzog circa 2021 to beg, scrape, and steal to make a film?  When you can just make a tik-tok?  Get a million followers.  Move on?
Maybe social media takes away precious free-time that you need to concentrate to come up with, as David Lynch says, "catching the big fish?" 
Or maybe the social anxiety of life pre-Covid - the mental-health insanity of it all - left little time to be happy and creative?
Or maybe with the movie theatres all about to die and the rise of netflix and movies being "content" as Scorsese calls it - maybe that has sapped everything that forces someone to work so hard to make their own feature.
For me I was born in 1981, and movies were the only thing I knew up even past college in 2003 when I could have started a filmmaking career. Netflix was just a mail-order DVD service. There was no social media yet, except maybe Friendster.
Now nearly twenty years later - what do young people who want to say things do?  Do they have that precious time to be creative?
Especially now when in 2021 young people graduate with hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt vs the 1970s when young people had barely any debt and could have a decent life and buy a home with little money and had room to wander and explore?

Maybe the dopamine hits of social media are to blame?
Is there a point anymore for a young twenty-year-old Herzog circa 2021 to beg, scrape, and steal to make a film?  When you can just make a tik-tok?  Get a million followers.  Move on?
Maybe social media takes away precious free-time that you need to concentrate to come up with, as David Lynch says, "catching the big fish?" 
Or maybe the social anxiety of life pre-Covid - the mental-health insanity of it all - left little time to be happy and creative?
Or maybe with the movie theatres all about to die and the rise of netflix and movies being "content" as Scorsese calls it - maybe that has sapped everything that forces someone to work so hard to make their own feature.
For me I was born in 1981, and movies were the only thing I knew up even past college in 2003 when I could have started a filmmaking career. Netflix was just a mail-order DVD service. There was no social media yet, except maybe Friendster.
Now nearly twenty years later - what do young people who want to say things do?  Do they have that precious time to be creative?
Especially now when in 2021 young people graduate with hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt vs the 1970s when young people had barely any debt and could have a decent life and buy a home with little money and had room to wander and explore?

Maybe the dopamine hits of social media are to blame?
Is there a point anymore for a young twenty-year-old Herzog circa 2021 to beg, scrape, and steal to make a film?  When you can just make a tik-tok?  Get a million followers.  Move on?
Maybe social media takes away precious free-time that you need to concentrate to come up with, as David Lynch says, "catching the big fish?" 
Or maybe the social anxiety of life pre-Covid - the mental-health insanity of it all - left little time to be happy and creative?
Or maybe with the movie theatres all about to die and the rise of netflix and movies being "content" as Scorsese calls it - maybe that has sapped everything that forces someone to work so hard to make their own feature.
For me I was born in 1981, and movies were the only thing I knew up even past college in 2003 when I could have started a filmmaking career. Netflix was just a mail-order DVD service. There was no social media yet, except maybe Friendster.
Now nearly twenty years later - what do young people who want to say things do?  Do they have that precious time to be creative?
Especially now when in 2021 young people graduate with hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt vs the 1970s when young people had barely any debt and could have a decent life and buy a home with little money and had room to wander and explore?

Maybe the dopamine hits of social media are to blame?
Is there a point anymore for a young twenty-year-old Herzog circa 2021 to beg, scrape, and steal to make a film?  When you can just make a tik-tok?  Get a million followers.  Move on?
Maybe social media takes away precious free-time that you need to concentrate to come up with, as David Lynch says, "catching the big fish?" 
Or maybe the social anxiety of life pre-Covid - the mental-health insanity of it all - left little time to be happy and creative?
Or maybe with the movie theatres all about to die and the rise of netflix and movies being "content" as Scorsese calls it - maybe that has sapped everything that forces someone to work so hard to make their own feature.
For me I was born in 1981, and movies were the only thing I knew up even past college in 2003 when I could have started a filmmaking career. Netflix was just a mail-order DVD service. There was no social media yet, except maybe Friendster.
Now nearly twenty years later - what do young people who want to say things do?  Do they have that precious time to be creative?
Especially now when in 2021 young people graduate with hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt vs the 1970s when young people had barely any debt and could have a decent life and buy a home with little money and had room to wander and explore?

One of the ugliest aspects of this pandemic has been the reminder of the sense of entitlement so many people have. It was always there but it's really been hitting us over the head every day since the pandemic began. Selfishness has been deemed "freedom" and any attempt to reel in such selfishness has been labeled "tyranny." It's to the point where people compare, without even the smallest bit of irony, that it's equal to slavery. 
Mind you they make these statements on their phones and computers, with minimal restrictions on what they can say (depending on the platform), while living in their nice homes, driving their nice cars, eating in restaurants, and enjoying most of the other wonderful perks that comes with modern technology and society. 
You know who don't have any of that? Actual slaves. And they exist today, not as these privileged people complaining, but as human beings forced to live in squalor, void of any rights, and forced to work for nothing. The minor inconveniences you've had to live with this last year is still better than anything those people have ever experienced. So yeah, people's insistence on comparing the efforts to combat COVID-19 to slavery is not only dumb but insulting to those that have experienced genuine slavery or whose ancestors were slaves. All of that should go without saying and yet here we are. Embarrassing. 

That is great look and skintones. Super impressive. Would love to see a komodo vs e2-f6 vs mavo lf vs mavo edge vs red monstro vs etc shoot out ( when the edge comes out).
mavo edge just interests me more personally because it has more professional features like dual sdi out.

MAVO looks really good.

I think the Mavo LF image quality also owes something to the robust ProRes 4444 XQ codec that is available internally. It is better than many of the proprietary RAW formats that are partially debayered (e.g., ZRAW, BRAW). The Mavo Edge 8K should be an excellent choice based on what we have seen with the Mavo LF 6K. However, it is about to get very competitive in that price range. Lower down, even ZCAM is doing some impressive things with color and internal ProRes:
 

Yea mavo lf certainly looks like it has a much better skintones and iq out of the box. More than all the reds... even the monstro.  I put in a preorder for the mavo edge, which seems to iron out some things in the mavo lf. Hopefully sensor is still good in low light and dynamic range is still good.
and yea thats funny about vincent laforet being treated so poorly. He really help put red on the map.
whats next? Is Shane Hurlbut even safe? 🤗
 

has anyone done tests between this lens vs like a lomo or kowa or SLR magic lens vs like a Kowa B&H lens?  
 
very excited about this lens for affordable anamorphic

Didn't realize I don't have a 67-77MM step up ring. Hoping to get a variety of light, then can put up some quick clips.

Nah it’s because I’m broke now or I’m going to buy it. 😆

Well just kidding. I used to be one of those “I’m to buy it based on one video”, but now I care about workflow more than anything so I try before I buy anything if possible.
It amazed me how much money I have saved. 🤣

Even Vincent Laforet got Komodo himself.. the guy who started this whole dslr craze! But in the comment ppl say wtf is this guy how dare him tag jarred in it.  Red Fanboy is just embarrassing themselves.🤣
 

Bang on color. Fantastic.

If you look back on the clips that were posted, such as the plane at the airport, you can see that while Komodo has trouble with noise and low light, the color fidelity is not sacrificed as it can be with a lot of cameras in the $6K range. When the lights go down, the bit depth does not suffer: it does not go "thin" or start looking like 8-bit footage when you withdraw light. I can't speak to the colors in the grading process as I haven't downloaded any of the R3D files, but you can probably get it to match any of the modern RED sensors close enough. This is, after all, intended as a gimbal camera and not as a main one. So it is somewhat taking the place of the very capable RED Raven 4.5K, albeit in a very different marketplace. Nowadays, for just two thousand more, you can get a Kinefinity MAVO LF ($8K brain), which is an incredible camera for the price and I think a much better option as a proper cinema cam:
 

I'm not sure about Pocket 6K, but it's true that Komodo is noisier than Gemini and Helium and doesn't have the same DR:
Then again, for $6K, you are getting a "discount Dragon," so no complaints!

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@rawshooter  from your link here is co-founder Elle explaining it all. And also earlier you said db16 was really not a homebrew product but the work of some large Canadian company. Which implies that they lied and were deceptive with their kickstarter backers. 
“6  cameras have shipped so far. We have more built, but they each need to be hand tested and calibrated before they ship. After the holiday it should be faster and probably 3 cameras a day. There are many factors that go into shipping that have nothing to do with whether the camera is ready, like customs forms, verifying addresses, printing up invoices, physical packing, that kind of boring stuff.
This pretty much says what the roles of everyone at the company are: http://www.digitalbolex.com/about/
Joe partnered with the executives at Ienso, a preexisting camera company, to create a new company called Cinemeridian. Cinemeridian has existed since 2011, which is when hardware development of the camera began. Joe, Mike (our CTO), and I essentially do the concept development of features both hardware and software, and Mike executes those. Joe is the CEO of the company. He is the actual boss. He works with Kish and Pomfort to design our lenses and software and to seek out new relationships with other companies who might want to make products for the camera, works with Mike and the engineering team to problem solve issues, does the hands-on thorough camera testing on the LA end, writes blog posts, answers questions on the forum, and does a lot of banal business stuff. Mike is a rockstar. What's funny about the suppositions in this thread is that Stelio is actually the least involved in day to day stuff on our project, as he manages the business side of Ienso and all the other projects they've done, and chimes in when we need more heads on an engineering problem. They are all awesome guys up in Canada and everyone in the company has put in a ridiculous amount of work.
Source of development funds is that Ienso is financially invested in the project, and Joe has put in the funds he received from selling his half of the successful business he founded years ago. He sold his half because his previous business partner did not want to branch out into developing new imaging technology, and he believed in the future of raw. He would not have put his own money, his financial future, into this thing if he didn't believe in it 100%, and that's a very brave thing to do.
Warranty is 1 year standard warranty like most consumer electronics, and will be serviced in Toronto. A few rental houses have asked if we would be interested in local US based warranty and servicing, and we'll definitely be looking into that once the first batch of cameras is out.
I think it's a great accomplishment that we've done what other big camera companies have done in a shorter time with far fewer resources. That's not to say that we're perfect, we've had many problems and delays, but that's all part of starting a business. But I hope that someone who has watched our journey and decides to try something they wouldn't have previously thought possible might learn something from where we've gone right and wrong.”
In summation, the company practices of digital bolex is pretty much an inverse of red. They aren’t a company that exists as a patent troll. They don’t bully or harass or threaten to sue their customers. They don’t threaten bloggers or filmmakers with legal action. And they most likely probably label their products country of origin honestly.
 
 

A lot of it does come down to expense and time.
1080p Prores is easy to process and has plenty of detail and especially color information for most people. Almost any computer can process it.
Manual focus lenses are cheaper than AF lenses. And older ones are plenty sharp for most work. 
Super 16 zoom lenses are cheap and have a very wide range making it easy to get coverage without switching lenses. They are also easier to focus with a deeper depth of field.
Shooting slower and more deliberately means you don't have to shoot as much. 
People gave me some s*** for buying a old Sony F3. I bought it to save me time on set. I don't have to rig it up like a DSLR. I don't have to worry about HDMI's breaking, the tripod plate coming loose, or the battery running out in the middle of a take meaning I have to take my rig apart. I put it on the tripod, put a battery in it, and I'm good to go. 
I think the reason a lot of people are going back to these cameras is because they know them, it's a pleasing image to their eye right out of camera, clients aren't demanding 4K, and it saves them time achieving the look they want which means it saves them money in the end.

I was wondering this too. What if the R5 was designed and ready a while ago when Canon were still conservative on the video specs side and changed course late in the day.

@PannySVHS  Agreed - Iḿ sorry.  Itś just difficult to hear @rawshooter make acquisations that my friend Joes company was committing fraud and deception.  It felt extremely personal.  And was an emotional response by me.  Iĺl tone it down.
Okay @rawshooter maybe DB16 has an explanation for having in their BTS that they are using that camera.  Maybe it has a modified firmware or  chip or sensor that makes it the precursor to the DB16.  I can ask Joe. 
But really, again, you accused them of so many other things.  Like their kickstarter campaign was fraud and the founders were just puppets and social media influencers.  I cant, because of my weird OCD, sit back and see these words go on eoshd as public record and easily searchable by google.  
I really dont want to get Joe involved in asking him about this, but go for it if you want to ask him, I can give you his email.