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I know Andrew isn't always a fan of people just posting Youtube links, but after a while it's nice to see some (what I would consider) cinematic samples of the camera coming out these days. Good to remember with the new Canon announcements that the ceiling for this cam remains incredibly high.
 
 
 

Again, magenta cast in the black shirt, black hair areas. Look at 00:59sec.  What is that secondary shadow in under her nose?  At 01:06s I don't see any magenta cast.  At 01:27s the shot is horrible.  Good skin tone but at the cost of color balance.

RED color and footage holds up.  RED blows away BM across the board. 
Black Magic footage is always graded away from natural color.  Always.  The same with the GH5.  Give me one color grade that has a natural look and let's see how these cameras hold up. 
 
 
 

Why is @John Brawley being pushed on us so much across the EOS and the net today?  I thought real DP's don't hang out on the EOS?
The proof will be in the footage not how technical someone talks about the NEW sensor.     
Let @John Brawley compare the BM12K to Alexa, RED and Venice and see if it falls apart.  How much you wanna bet he never does that test?
I really don't need a BM cheerleader to push their cameras.
 

Why is @John Brawley being pushed on us so much across the EOS and the net today?  I thought real DP's don't hang out on the EOS?
The proof will be in the footage not how technical someone talks about the NEW sensor.     
Let @John Brawley compare the BM12K to Alexa, RED and Venice and see if it falls apart.  How much you wanna bet he never does that test?
I really don't need a BM cheerleader to push their cameras.
 

I'm in  the camp that thinks that PDAF and IBIS are very useful - still thinking in get a E-M1 MKII or M5 MK III just because of these two points.

Just did not call an Alexa not useful because don''t have both. Could not be useful for me, but don't make the camera unusable.

If Drive-In Theaters make a comeback 12K down to 8K might be the future in theatrical release motion pictures.  

I would have rather had global shutter 6K with 14 stops. 

The z6 is a great camera for video and stills.  It blows away the A7III and is better than the EOS R.    The reason people on the EOS don't give it a serious look baffles me also.  
The media / press jumped on the Z6 for a number of unwarranted things that just aren't true.  Nikon is not very good at getting the word out and having professionals use the Z6 like they should have. 

This guy is a joke. 
If anyone wonders why Nikon Z system didn't catch on for video you can blame people like Wolfjoke. 
This gets called out for being wrong in his reviews but never does anything but try and create more clickbait. 
 
 

Announcing the new BlackMagic P8K - FF - 8k30 6k60 4k120 RAW- 15 stops of DR - $3000 with Resolve.
I'm probably way off, but that's the trajectory they're on!

What I am really sad is that people on site like here (because believe me a lot of people are using the Z for video in Nikon groups etc) don't  give a serious look at what Nikon is doing. As a d810, d750 to the D70 15 years ago user, the most enjoyable camera I have used are my 2 z6. As a hybrid shooter I can just flick a button and switch from video or photo mode.
Now for me the z6 could have been a little bigger, double card slot and 4k 60p and 10 bit and log internal. The double card slot and 4k 60p seems to be coming in a next update about September, october. I would really really like a 10 bit and internal log, it would be a dream come true, but at least if it is not possible with current tech (look at overheating in R5 R6) you have the possibility to use the Ninja V. I mean if a z6 with a Ninja V is too big for anyone, I am out of breath. I mean it is smaller than using an entry level camera like the Nikon D3500 and a flash. And if you do any video seriouly that need 10 bit and Log you will have to carry tripods or Ronin etc.
Now the good part, the z6 is the best experience shooting I have. I mean with the fantastic viewfinder, excellent IBIS, touch screen and best of all autofocus, I can shoot handheld like doing photos. For reportage style that I do for a well known worldwide broadcaster, it is a game changer. Doing B-rolls don't need to put on a tripod anymore. Except for very smooth pan or walking shot that I will use tripod, stabilizer or interview setup and higher end job. The auto-focus is super good and getting better with every extra firmware update. Last year when it was about buying a BM camera to compliment the z6 (60fps 4k and eventually raw) the auto-focus killed that though. This combined with slowmo 120fps at 1080p gives such good quality. That 120 fps is underrated, even if it 1080p it is still gorgeous. I would hope even a 4k 120 fps or even a crop or a 2,7k version, just to intercut it a bit closer to the 4k.
Now it terms of usability, you have 3 U setting button that I configured to 24, 60 and 120 fps with all corresponding shutter speed. I would have liked for them to have included banks that I could choose because I live in a Pal country but shoot for an American one and also for creative job shoot at 24 fps. There are two user configurable button in the front and have configured on to swith from FX to DX mode and the other for changing focus mode. You also have a very nice rear touch LCD with rapid menu that you can also configure to your need. In the end the z6 is the most versatile and ergonomic camera I have ever use. I can change aperture, shutter speed and ISO just with my thumb and upper finger.
Now there are things I have been experimenting lately with the the app, where I can sync timecode using the automatic time which uses gps etc, and rack focusing with it.
 
 

What kind of second camera work are you talking about? Are they using A7III and what Canon model?  
Second camera work with the Z6 rigged out or not will give you AF tracking in video, 10 bit out if needed and better color.   That's important for a second camera operator.

Good discussion everyone.
Nikon and the Z6 got hammered with bad reviews, fair reviews and spec diving that they couldn't recover from.   The Z6 even got hurt by "the A7SIII is gonna....." and this was 2 years ago.
I like what the S1 can do spec wise but bad AF tracking cripples it.  It looks like the same sensor as Z6 and is priced more. 
It all comes down to who you want to invest in. 
 

Because at the end of the day image quality matters. 
Crippled specs is the same as paper specs.  A camera that's good on paper but the image quality doesn't match.
It's clear that lots of cameras passed the GH5 in color and image quality years ago.  The Gh5 is a suckers camera in 2020.  You see people on Facebook boards jumping into buy a $1,697 GH5 from Adorm$$ because the specs checks all the boxes.
Smartphones shoot 4k and even 8K.   Go use those because I'm sure RAW will be next.

The R6 would be gimbal cam for me, which is always gonna be short takes. 

That said I might as well get a 1DX MK3. I could use that as a gimbal camera and a camera for any other application (long record times general reliability). Plus it has RAW recording internal. 

I mean I guess buying a R6 plus something like a Pocket 6k or GH5S is still cheaper than a 1DX MK3. 

So you do have good eyes and standards.  That's good.

Because at the end of the day image quality matters. 
Crippled specs is the same as paper specs.  A camera that's good on paper but the image quality doesn't match.
It's clear that lots of cameras passed the GH5 in color and image quality years ago.  The Gh5 is a suckers camera in 2020.  You see people on Facebook boards jumping into buy a $1,697 GH5 from Adorm$$ because the specs checks all the boxes.
Smartphones shoot 4k and even 8K.   Go use those because I'm sure RAW will be next.

Nope.  It's all about people jumping on a negative and having knee jerk reactions.
The GH5 had crippled specs that for all purposes were the same as an iPhone doing 4k at the time.   Yes that's extreme but as long as you see 4K 10bit you think it's equal to cine 4k 10bit and its not. 
Maybe wait and see what the limitations are before jumping off the cliff.

The R5 and R6 deliver the specs they claim on paper. 
Let's not forget IMAGE QUALITY trumps SPECS that you never use. 
We need to wait and see how the R5 and R6 stack up against the latest cameras in it's class.  
You could be right.  The Gh5 image quality might be as good as we can get.  I've seen better with the S1, Z6, P4K, P6K and Sigma.  Let see if the R5 and R6 are even usable before we champion that they are not.
 
 
 

Because at the end of the day image quality matters. 
Crippled specs is the same as paper specs.  A camera that's good on paper but the image quality doesn't match.
It's clear that lots of cameras passed the GH5 in color and image quality years ago.  The Gh5 is a suckers camera in 2020.  You see people on Facebook boards jumping into buy a $1,697 GH5 from Adorm$$ because the specs checks all the boxes.
Smartphones shoot 4k and even 8K.   Go use those because I'm sure RAW will be next.

So you do have good eyes and standards.  That's good.

Of course they are still selling them with the IR issue.  Brilliant is not the word I would use for unstable color.

IR/far red contamination issues with RED cameras does not mean those RED owners don't address it does it?  It more the fact that P6K owners on the EOS and You Tube don't see IR/far red contamination issues in P6K footage.  If they are using a IR Cut filter they also clearly can't see if it's the right one to use with the P6K.  It's not one size fits all or fix all.
RED color science blows BM away and especially the P6K. 
Don't quit your day job to do stand up because you're not good at it.

I believe your just leading this ridiculous campaign to promote
 your blog . Which is perfectly fine . But, do you really expect a camera that cost 3500.00 to do what a 79,0000.00 dollar Red Monstro does?   Every sane person knew it would be limited.   And the Red doesn’t have the crazy good AF. 
I think a lot of people are going to take advantage of the amazing capabilities of this camera, and produce some lovely work. And, from what I have seen it looks pretty fantastic. We have come a long way since the 5D.