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I agree about the body of the BM12K.   They need to stop messing around with the weird design looks and innovate the body so it appeals to RED users or anyone else.  If you spend 10K on a camera body in 2020 it should at least look as good what RED produces.  

I know magenta cast or IR contamination can be removed. 
IR contamination shouldn't be in that 12K footage.   I'm sure @John Brawley should have seen it.  He wrote up that blog about it.  I'm sure BM has a few great colorist that should have caught it. Heck, the built in ND's are supposed to eliminate IR contamination. 
This is the reason ARRI, Canon and RED have clean color.   No company is perfect but these 3 companies seem to understand color science and working with the right sensor foundation. 
Black Magic seems to get the most out of sensors for lowest cost compared to any other camera company.   Instead of cutting corners they should just make sensors and cameras that get the best results at any cost. 
I'm begging to wonder if they have the engineers to pull of great color science. 
Take a look at the picture from BM website, someone thought that IR contamination was acceptable to showcase.

This is a quick photoshop fix on how that image should have looked without IR contamination.  The question is what else is being puled out when magenta is puled down?
 

 
 

At 01:24s his hair does not have a magenta color to it.  In the video it has a light cast.  The same with the first scene, girl with the black top and at 01:42s, her hair is a dark brown. The next scene at 01:44 you don't see magenta cast in her hair.  It's there when you know black should not have a magenta tone at all. 
 

Why is @John Brawley being pushed on us so much across the EOS and the net today?  I thought real DP's don't hang out on the EOS?
The proof will be in the footage not how technical someone talks about the NEW sensor.     
Let @John Brawley compare the BM12K to Alexa, RED and Venice and see if it falls apart.  How much you wanna bet he never does that test?
I really don't need a BM cheerleader to push their cameras.
 

Sorry about this post guys.   I was a little harsh and came off as an asshole.
I don't like the magenta cast on @John Brawley 12K footage. 
His technical break down about the sensor was awesome and @John Brawley does some incredible work.

Why is @John Brawley being pushed on us so much across the EOS and the net today?  I thought real DP's don't hang out on the EOS?
The proof will be in the footage not how technical someone talks about the NEW sensor.     
Let @John Brawley compare the BM12K to Alexa, RED and Venice and see if it falls apart.  How much you wanna bet he never does that test?
I really don't need a BM cheerleader to push their cameras.
 

Camcorders when they found out they were invited to a heat test

110f in Las Vegas according to the description.

Sorry about this post guys.   I was a little harsh and came off as an asshole.
I don't like the magenta cast on @John Brawley 12K footage. 
His technical break down about the sensor was awesome and @John Brawley does some incredible work.

The 12K footage looks good but not better than Arri, RED or Canon.    It still looks like BM color science.
BM has a brand problem.  No big studio has to move away from RED or Arri.   The incentive to do so is not their unless the image quality is better.
BM has also shown the flaws of it's lower line up.

How did I get a downvote for calling out magenta cast from the BM12K sensor?  

At 01:24s his hair does not have a magenta color to it.  In the video it has a light cast.  The same with the first scene, girl with the black top and at 01:42s, her hair is a dark brown. The next scene at 01:44 you don't see magenta cast in her hair.  It's there when you know black should not have a magenta tone at all. 
 

RED color and footage holds up.  RED blows away BM across the board. 
Black Magic footage is always graded away from natural color.  Always.  The same with the GH5.  Give me one color grade that has a natural look and let's see how these cameras hold up. 
 
 
 

RED color and footage holds up.  RED blows away BM across the board. 
Black Magic footage is always graded away from natural color.  Always.  The same with the GH5.  Give me one color grade that has a natural look and let's see how these cameras hold up. 
 
 
 

RED color and footage holds up.  RED blows away BM across the board. 
Black Magic footage is always graded away from natural color.  Always.  The same with the GH5.  Give me one color grade that has a natural look and let's see how these cameras hold up. 
 
 
 

The 12K footage looks good but not better than Arri, RED or Canon.    It still looks like BM color science.
BM has a brand problem.  No big studio has to move away from RED or Arri.   The incentive to do so is not their unless the image quality is better.
BM has also shown the flaws of it's lower line up.

RED color and footage holds up.  RED blows away BM across the board. 
Black Magic footage is always graded away from natural color.  Always.  The same with the GH5.  Give me one color grade that has a natural look and let's see how these cameras hold up. 
 
 
 

I guess I need to look at it a little closer, it seemed like a C300 or something more in that range? 

Ask a  experienced DP if they want to shoot a movie on a RED or a Blackmagic.
RED and Blackmagic are different markets. The market for the RED Helium is high budget TV shows, commercials, movies, music videos and documentaries where producers and DP are going for much more than just resolution or specs. It's about brand recognition (overall RED has good reputation, reliability (REDs fail, but they have an amazing customer service), image quality for capture and post production (approved by high budget movies and production houses), etc etc etc. It's not just a thing about price vs specs (ask yourself why the Alexa Mini is the most popular camera and it's not even 4K...)
I'm not saying that Blackmagic will not be a great brand in the future, they probably ill (?), but at the same time they have a lot to prove on the market, and that's not an easy task, it's a work of years and years, not just high specs and tech disruption.

RED color and footage holds up.  RED blows away BM across the board. 
Black Magic footage is always graded away from natural color.  Always.  The same with the GH5.  Give me one color grade that has a natural look and let's see how these cameras hold up. 
 
 
 

The 12K footage looks good but not better than Arri, RED or Canon.    It still looks like BM color science.
BM has a brand problem.  No big studio has to move away from RED or Arri.   The incentive to do so is not their unless the image quality is better.
BM has also shown the flaws of it's lower line up.

RED color and footage holds up.  RED blows away BM across the board. 
Black Magic footage is always graded away from natural color.  Always.  The same with the GH5.  Give me one color grade that has a natural look and let's see how these cameras hold up. 
 
 
 

Again, magenta cast in the black shirt, black hair areas. Look at 00:59sec.  What is that secondary shadow in under her nose?  At 01:06s I don't see any magenta cast.  At 01:27s the shot is horrible.  Good skin tone but at the cost of color balance.

How did I get a downvote for calling out magenta cast from the BM12K sensor?  

How did I get a downvote for calling out magenta cast from the BM12K sensor?