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I think part of the appeal of red is buying into the myth of Red.  And part of that Myth is that the CEO, Jim Jannard, is the Elon Musk of the camera world.  A genius badass disruptor.    When that myth gets lifted, with jinnimag videos, consumers, especially those who own thousands of dollars of gear, those who bought into the myth of red get upset.
Especially in the past three years, when 4k is now the norm, and Red no longer has higher resolution as a selling point, and when cheaper cameras like the blackmagic ursa mini pro and c300 ii and fs7 can get people to an image they want for a lot cheaper.
When Hollywood now primarily uses the Alexa over the red. It's almost a mythical choice.
But yea, now as we find out how much of a liar and Barnum-like con man Jim is, more stuff like below will be discovered.
When he was the CEO at Oakley, he was involved in the Lance Armstrong doping scandal. He most likely was a bully who "encouraged" his employee to lie under oath.  Maybe not what people expect in a leader.  The type of person who could point blank lie to several companies about the origin of his camera components and would have no problem manipulating his users. More of this will come out.
And at what point will the myth of red vanish, and will cameras go back to just being cameras. Tools used to do a job or create art?
Where camera comparison tests from CML have more effect on a buyer than the feeling one gets from holding a camera or if it feels like a status symbol?
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-07-02/sponsor-turned-blind-eye-to-lance-armstrongs-doping/5564074
 

I think part of the appeal of red is buying into the myth of Red.  And part of that Myth is that the CEO, Jim Jannard, is the Elon Musk of the camera world.  A genius badass disruptor.    When that myth gets lifted, with jinnimag videos, consumers, especially those who own thousands of dollars of gear, those who bought into the myth of red get upset.
Especially in the past three years, when 4k is now the norm, and Red no longer has higher resolution as a selling point, and when cheaper cameras like the blackmagic ursa mini pro and c300 ii and fs7 can get people to an image they want for a lot cheaper.
When Hollywood now primarily uses the Alexa over the red. It's almost a mythical choice.
But yea, now as we find out how much of a liar and Barnum-like con man Jim is, more stuff like below will be discovered.
When he was the CEO at Oakley, he was involved in the Lance Armstrong doping scandal. He most likely was a bully who "encouraged" his employee to lie under oath.  Maybe not what people expect in a leader.  The type of person who could point blank lie to several companies about the origin of his camera components and would have no problem manipulating his users. More of this will come out.
And at what point will the myth of red vanish, and will cameras go back to just being cameras. Tools used to do a job or create art?
Where camera comparison tests from CML have more effect on a buyer than the feeling one gets from holding a camera or if it feels like a status symbol?
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-07-02/sponsor-turned-blind-eye-to-lance-armstrongs-doping/5564074
 

I think part of the appeal of red is buying into the myth of Red.  And part of that Myth is that the CEO, Jim Jannard, is the Elon Musk of the camera world.  A genius badass disruptor.    When that myth gets lifted, with jinnimag videos, consumers, especially those who own thousands of dollars of gear, those who bought into the myth of red get upset.
Especially in the past three years, when 4k is now the norm, and Red no longer has higher resolution as a selling point, and when cheaper cameras like the blackmagic ursa mini pro and c300 ii and fs7 can get people to an image they want for a lot cheaper.
When Hollywood now primarily uses the Alexa over the red. It's almost a mythical choice.
But yea, now as we find out how much of a liar and Barnum-like con man Jim is, more stuff like below will be discovered.
When he was the CEO at Oakley, he was involved in the Lance Armstrong doping scandal. He most likely was a bully who "encouraged" his employee to lie under oath.  Maybe not what people expect in a leader.  The type of person who could point blank lie to several companies about the origin of his camera components and would have no problem manipulating his users. More of this will come out.
And at what point will the myth of red vanish, and will cameras go back to just being cameras. Tools used to do a job or create art?
Where camera comparison tests from CML have more effect on a buyer than the feeling one gets from holding a camera or if it feels like a status symbol?
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-07-02/sponsor-turned-blind-eye-to-lance-armstrongs-doping/5564074
 

My gripe is the whole mentality of:
 
1)Company/person did great things for the industry!
2)Product just works and works great!
 
....therefore, they get a free pass to do whatever they want because they earned that privilege.
 
 
also it seems reduser is leaking into the YouTube comments for video 4.  Pretty much the same sentiment.
”Red products have done great things for my career.  Therefore they are above reproach.”

It's not how I'd react, but I kinda get it. Those folks have invested a lot of money into RED cameras and accessories, and I'm sure they're overall very happy with them, so it's probably kind of difficult for them to accept these allegations. That the RED community has spent a decade plus interacting with the people at RED on a personal level probably doesn't help. 
Ultimately one of the things that kinda bums me out about all of this is, RED really did do incredible things. When you take away all the allegations, the premium charged for off the shelf tech, etc. you still have a series of cameras that helped democratize cinema cameras, moving the tech forward while also opening it up to a whole different class of people. Until Blackmagic got into the game RED was the only cinema camera people like my friends and me could afford to work with. And it was awesome!  It's disappointing that it's legacy has changed in many ways. Regardless of the outcome it didn't need to be like this. 

Jesus himself could come down from Heaven waving a banner saying "RED LIED" and folks on reduser would still not believe. 
 

Lol at all the die hards over on reduser moving the goal posts.
reduser: Red makes its own sensors because Jim said so something something gospel
Jim deposition: Actually we didn't I just lied about it
reduser: Red had to lie its just how business is done these days you can't expect them to make their own sensor its obvious!

After watching this video and the one before it, it's easy to see that ALL of RED's claims should be reexamined.
Their false use of "made in the USA" and false claims of designing their own sensors go well beyond ethical business practices. 
I have little doubt that the industry will be better off once this patent is revoked. It's smoke and mirrors, and it's holding back fair competition.

If you like the video, please donate to him so he can make a part V and/or send him your red one mx so he can open it up and find the secrets:
https://www.gofundme.com/f/jinni-reveals-red?utm_source=customer&utm_medium=copy_link&utm_campaign=p_cp+share-sheet
 
Why support him?:
All of this seems to have already gotten the interest of Apple Inc that is in a patent dispute with Red.  It seems this way as they have started to reference Jim Jannard's posts on reduser and cinematography.com.

- If more knowledge of Red not actually having developed its sensor, then this will start to open up flaws in Red's patent on compressed raw internally.  Right now Red stops all other camera manufacturers from making cameras that record compressed raw internally.
 
 
How will this affect ARRI ALEXA CAMERAS?
Arri cameras have pro res 4444 on them.  This may open up Pro RAW on them - which is more efficient at 4k than 4k Pro Res HQ, but still a 12-bit codec!

Why is Pro Res RAW so amazing?
When a client asks for 4k, right now on the alexa MINI LF you can do 4k Pro Res 4444, but it eats up data for breakfast.  Pro Res RAW brings this to a much more manageable data rate.

How will this affect Canon, Sony, and BM cameras?
Same.  Imagine a smaller mirrorless camera that can do pro res raw?  More efficient data rates in higher resolution.  Better data for green screen and skintones for grading.
This seems like a small thing, a man making little youtube videos, but it has real positives for our industry.  His detective work is worth its weight in gold.  And all it takes is hitting a link and anonymously sending him some cash.  
https://www.gofundme.com/f/jinni-reveals-red?utm_source=customer&utm_medium=copy_link&utm_campaign=p_cp+share-sheet

Its gonna be a party in here, dvxuser, r/videography, and r/cinematography if RED looses to Apple in the lawsuit.
Fingers crossed they loose the case.

We have cameras that are unable to shoot internal RAW literally because of RED. You want to stop animosity against a company that is completely screwing everyone else over and suing people left and right? A company that made it so Blackmagic had no choice but to create their own RAW format and made companies like Panasonic, Sony, and Nikon all have to figure out ways to make raw external instead, which in turn makes the rest of us have to buy expensive external recorders and expensive SSDs? Seriously, no offense man - but you should probably quit telling people what to do and how to treat companies, especially companies that are making our work life more difficult and more expensive. Also, dont forget where you are - this is EOSHD, where the creator of the site is very critical of companies - which in turn pushes them to be better and to quit their bullshit. So in conclusion, please get off your high horse and realize that we shouldn’t bow down to big bad RED and let them push us around with their bullshit patent. And this “animosity” is very much warranted.