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new nikon 85mm f1.8S really rock you,,,

Z6 firmware 2.0
• Improved autofocus performance for photos and movies shot under low light: -3.5 – 19 EV (low light autofocus -6 – 19 EV), measured in photo mode with single-servo AF (AF-S) at ISO 100 and 20°C with an f/2 lens.
@DBounce do you test it ?

Never ending topic bcos nowadays most smartphone do delivery 4k

I am just saying you do not have to go to great extents to "defend" these cameras because you are loosing "credibility".
We all agree that modern cameras are good enough for most things, trying to stretch your (ours) logic to make it seem better than it is, is a futile excersice to abnormality.
These 2 R cameras are their worst in class. Be happy using them, but there are better solutions out there for almost everyone.
I own already a camera with better ergononics, better menu system, un breakable top screen, Fn functions on lenses and already amazing color science, and it is called NX1..but that was 5 years ago..

Yeah you don't pay close attention, that much is evident. Big grinding heavy element moving around and you don't notice?!
Customers like you are the reason Canon wins and innovation fails every time.
The focus on that one is even worse. It has the cheapest possible moving front element in some kind of plastic that extends very far outwards especially when macro focussing, prone to wobbly and damage. It makes the cheaper Canon EF 35mm F2.0 IS look positively space age. That does have internal focus, whereas Canon didn't think to add it on a mirrorless camera lens where it's most needed.