Jtdiddy

2020 and Panasonic still hasn't sorted out their af smh

Um, it was just proven yesterday that you can record 4 hours continuous of 4K HQ to an external recorder like the Ninja V, with no card inserted and with a dummy battery.  And then apparently, its a quicker cool down (i.e 5min) and then u can record again. Check out "NoLife" channel on YT.  That's plenty of record time for most if not everyone. 
So it seems recording high res video internally has overheating issues only. 

meh, still think overall the R5 is the best all around mirrorless camera right now. the overheating issues are overblown I think

R5 still more impressive with overall features for a mirrorless full frame format.  

Im leaning to an R5 (allthough I just downloaded some clips and playback in resolve is not smooth at all, buts its been a while I have edited something else then prores or braw) atm, because it is the best hybrid out there, and I want a decent hybrid as I am done carrying around a bunch of bodies (can always rent a alexa mini for the projects that need it). But prolly this new blackmagic camera will make me drool again (owned a lot of bm camera's). 
I think they are aiming at the F6, but it will be cheaper and have better codecs. 

That's a camera that is used with a full production crew, DP, AC, Focus Puller, Director, Assistant Director . I doubt many  shooting with the Pocket Camera Full Frame will not be. Full Frame with out really good AF is useless in my opinion .
 

I'm not sure what the big complaints are.  Really, any camera in this form factor having these insane specs is probably going to suffer some overheating issues if you push it to the limits.  If you need to record 8k or 4k/120 for more than  20 min, then you should be getting a different dedicated cinema style camera and not a hybrid.  Also, it should be noted, that these were all pre-production R5's that people have been testing so overheating issues could be much improved in final versions.
Also at this level, people typically record to external recorders like the Atomos Ninja V (for 4k only), which resolves the 30 min recording limit and could also help with the overheating issue. 

but who's to say the R5 is not reliable?  if u looks there are alot of early reviews saying that they had no overheating issues with the R5. 
in this form factor, do u really think a little fan is gonna improve overheating that much?  if u do, then you're just not being realistic. 
I for one, are grateful for these overheat limitations and warnings to protect the camera.  
Those who understand the R5, its meant for short bursts of high end 8k, 4k/120 video not elongated usage at these specs.  
We'll see what happens when the production models roll out but I have a hunch, that the R5 will do 4k/60 or less with no major overheating issues 

I'm not sure what the big complaints are.  Really, any camera in this form factor having these insane specs is probably going to suffer some overheating issues if you push it to the limits.  If you need to record 8k or 4k/120 for more than  20 min, then you should be getting a different dedicated cinema style camera and not a hybrid.  Also, it should be noted, that these were all pre-production R5's that people have been testing so overheating issues could be much improved in final versions.
Also at this level, people typically record to external recorders like the Atomos Ninja V (for 4k only), which resolves the 30 min recording limit and could also help with the overheating issue.