currensheldon

I've tried both C200 + EOS R, but decided to stick with my EVA-1 + GH5, maybe replacing the latter with the S1 once the V-Log, 10-bit update rolls out. But having three mounts across the same brand (EVA: EF, MFT, and L-Mount) is a headache. I love Canon but the GH5, S1, and Fuji mirrorless cameras feel so much more professional, robust, and tactile than the EOS R - and are fun to use instead of a chore. I'd love it if Canon came out strong with their pro bodies, but if I had been holding my breath I would have passed out many times the past 5-years. 
I AM holding my breath for a Panasonic MFT video/cinema camera OR a Fuji X-Mount cinema/video camera. Whoever does it first, I'll go all in. Until then, the EVA-1 and GH5 are getting the job done. 
 
 

Have any photos of that? I always want to use a lens hood but haven't found a variable ND that allows me to do so. 

Does anybody think that Sony actually has the BALLS to make an 8bit A7S-III compete against all the other 10bit cameras on the market?
Does Sony think their 8bit "low light" performace is so good that people wont care that its 8 bit?
I can say that my S1 with 10bit color already FAR exceeds any "low light" requirement I will ever need. And this is comming from a guy that just sold his A7S-II for the S1. The S1 is far superior to the A7S-II is countless ways.
When the S1 gets HDMI and Atomos ProRes raw 4k....Im finished. I dont need and A7S-III....ever!
The Lumix S1 "IS" what we have been asking for with the A7S-III.

With all the new full frame cameras (and I do love the S1), I would like to see a big push very soon from the MFT world (mostly Panasonic), because I am remembering why I always like to get the best quality possible in the smallest footprint possible. 
Since they've said over and over again that their full-frame cameras are for photographers and their GH-line for videographers, then Panasonic needs to prove it soon with one of these monster MFT sensors in the GH6 or a dedicated video/cinema camera. 
The GH5's specs are now being matched (almost) from the full-frame and APS-C world. It had a 2-3 year head start and now it's time to give the GH6 another 2-3 year head start from the next round of full-frame cameras. 36 megapixels, internal ND, full V-Log, GH5s low light, GH5 IBIS. Done. 
I have a hard time believing the A7sIII will be able to do everything stated without it overheating and catching fire in your hands. 
 
 
 

Yea exactly. Seems so simple. 
I don't think this would cut into their EVA-1 sales because people who are buying that camera want super35mm, 5.7k raw, etc. But a 10-bit 422 GH5s-sensor with full V-Log in a XC-15 or C100/FS5 style would be amazing. Throw a speedbooster on there and you've got a wider FOV than super35mm or stick with MFT and use lightweight lenses. $4-5k. 
It also is weird that nobody is making MFT or APS-C video cameras in the style of the Sony NEX-VG30 or Sony NEX-VG900 - everything under $5k is fixed lens camcorders. I guess if you made a video camera for $3-5k, they'd lost A7s and GH5 sales? If there was an MFT video camera, I'd much more likely hang on to my GH5 and also buy the GH6 as a b-cam, especially with that 10-25mm f1.7 coming out.
But I'm getting tired of having different lenses and lens mount for my A-Cam (EVA-1, EF Mount) and my other smaller b-cams and photography cams (GH5, S1) - so something has got to give soon... 
 

Definitely interested in seeing what these can do, but the problem (for me) with the Z-Cam and Pocket 4K is that still lack the main things I'm looking for in a video/cinema camera, namely internal NDs, great audio, and sensible ergonomics (buttons!). Not a fan of the box with a sensor in it system either, really. 
But I love that Z-Cam is doing the Super35mm sensor with an MFT mount - Can use MFT lenses (and crop in a bit on the sensor) for a truly lightweight rig or get the 0.64x speedbooster and have a wider FOV and a bit more light gathering ability than full-frame! So cool. Just hoping it could come from Panasonic. 

With all the new full frame cameras (and I do love the S1), I would like to see a big push very soon from the MFT world (mostly Panasonic), because I am remembering why I always like to get the best quality possible in the smallest footprint possible. 
Since they've said over and over again that their full-frame cameras are for photographers and their GH-line for videographers, then Panasonic needs to prove it soon with one of these monster MFT sensors in the GH6 or a dedicated video/cinema camera. 
The GH5's specs are now being matched (almost) from the full-frame and APS-C world. It had a 2-3 year head start and now it's time to give the GH6 another 2-3 year head start from the next round of full-frame cameras. 36 megapixels, internal ND, full V-Log, GH5s low light, GH5 IBIS. Done. 
I have a hard time believing the A7sIII will be able to do everything stated without it overheating and catching fire in your hands. 
 
 
 

This is possibly good news for MFT cameras and shooters. It sounds like a path to bring MFT into the 8K world in a cost effective way while combating some of the weak points like low light performance. I believe DoF will become a creative software choice in the future. I so enjoy the lighter kit and great video MFT offers. Especially when you have to lug it up a mountain or on long shooting days.
Sure, the same can be applied to FF with even better specs but at some point I’ll trade image quality for other features I.e., better sensor stabilization, less weight, more FPS, smaller telephoto, etc..

They confirmed they are working on ND's but not for the Z cam E2

Definitely interested in seeing what these can do, but the problem (for me) with the Z-Cam and Pocket 4K is that still lack the main things I'm looking for in a video/cinema camera, namely internal NDs, great audio, and sensible ergonomics (buttons!). Not a fan of the box with a sensor in it system either, really. 
But I love that Z-Cam is doing the Super35mm sensor with an MFT mount - Can use MFT lenses (and crop in a bit on the sensor) for a truly lightweight rig or get the 0.64x speedbooster and have a wider FOV and a bit more light gathering ability than full-frame! So cool. Just hoping it could come from Panasonic. 

Definitely interested in seeing what these can do, but the problem (for me) with the Z-Cam and Pocket 4K is that still lack the main things I'm looking for in a video/cinema camera, namely internal NDs, great audio, and sensible ergonomics (buttons!). Not a fan of the box with a sensor in it system either, really. 
But I love that Z-Cam is doing the Super35mm sensor with an MFT mount - Can use MFT lenses (and crop in a bit on the sensor) for a truly lightweight rig or get the 0.64x speedbooster and have a wider FOV and a bit more light gathering ability than full-frame! So cool. Just hoping it could come from Panasonic. 

Yea exactly. Seems so simple. 
I don't think this would cut into their EVA-1 sales because people who are buying that camera want super35mm, 5.7k raw, etc. But a 10-bit 422 GH5s-sensor with full V-Log in a XC-15 or C100/FS5 style would be amazing. Throw a speedbooster on there and you've got a wider FOV than super35mm or stick with MFT and use lightweight lenses. $4-5k. 
It also is weird that nobody is making MFT or APS-C video cameras in the style of the Sony NEX-VG30 or Sony NEX-VG900 - everything under $5k is fixed lens camcorders. I guess if you made a video camera for $3-5k, they'd lost A7s and GH5 sales? If there was an MFT video camera, I'd much more likely hang on to my GH5 and also buy the GH6 as a b-cam, especially with that 10-25mm f1.7 coming out.
But I'm getting tired of having different lenses and lens mount for my A-Cam (EVA-1, EF Mount) and my other smaller b-cams and photography cams (GH5, S1) - so something has got to give soon... 
 

Yea exactly. Seems so simple. 
I don't think this would cut into their EVA-1 sales because people who are buying that camera want super35mm, 5.7k raw, etc. But a 10-bit 422 GH5s-sensor with full V-Log in a XC-15 or C100/FS5 style would be amazing. Throw a speedbooster on there and you've got a wider FOV than super35mm or stick with MFT and use lightweight lenses. $4-5k. 
It also is weird that nobody is making MFT or APS-C video cameras in the style of the Sony NEX-VG30 or Sony NEX-VG900 - everything under $5k is fixed lens camcorders. I guess if you made a video camera for $3-5k, they'd lost A7s and GH5 sales? If there was an MFT video camera, I'd much more likely hang on to my GH5 and also buy the GH6 as a b-cam, especially with that 10-25mm f1.7 coming out.
But I'm getting tired of having different lenses and lens mount for my A-Cam (EVA-1, EF Mount) and my other smaller b-cams and photography cams (GH5, S1) - so something has got to give soon... 
 

Yea exactly. Seems so simple. 
I don't think this would cut into their EVA-1 sales because people who are buying that camera want super35mm, 5.7k raw, etc. But a 10-bit 422 GH5s-sensor with full V-Log in a XC-15 or C100/FS5 style would be amazing. Throw a speedbooster on there and you've got a wider FOV than super35mm or stick with MFT and use lightweight lenses. $4-5k. 
It also is weird that nobody is making MFT or APS-C video cameras in the style of the Sony NEX-VG30 or Sony NEX-VG900 - everything under $5k is fixed lens camcorders. I guess if you made a video camera for $3-5k, they'd lost A7s and GH5 sales? If there was an MFT video camera, I'd much more likely hang on to my GH5 and also buy the GH6 as a b-cam, especially with that 10-25mm f1.7 coming out.
But I'm getting tired of having different lenses and lens mount for my A-Cam (EVA-1, EF Mount) and my other smaller b-cams and photography cams (GH5, S1) - so something has got to give soon... 
 

GH5s in a C100/XC10 form (or even Sony VG30 form) would be great. A real lightweight all rounder.

We should just drop the "cinema" word from this conversation because it's meaning is different for each and every one of us. 

I've used the EOS R pretty extensively, but looking forward to my S1 arriving this week. After I test it, I'll let you know, but I'm pretty sure the Panasonic S1 is going to be way more to my liking for shooting video and with your GH5s, a much better combo for color and picture profiles.

I don't know, unless Sony start putting their Venice colour science into their mirrorless cameras, the S1 and the Nikon have a much nicer image to my eyes. From what I see the S1 has beautiful colours straight out of the camera and can't wait to see what it's like with full v-log. The Nikon needs some work but can get nice colours too. Sony really needs to address their colours or regardless of specs they will lose a  lot of potential customers. They have shown they can create lovely image - the F35 and new Venice prove that, they just need to start putting it into their lower end

Arri Mini LF, Alexa LF, AMIRA, Sony PMW-F3/F5/F55, VENICE, Panasonic Varicam S35 / LT , etc etc etc would all like to disagree with you!

Yea it seems like a slam dunk if they can combine the GH5s low light with GH5 IBIS in there too. I think there’s a big user base who wants a stabilized mini cinema camera - but nobody will give it. 
 
 

Quite true. That’s why there are dozens of non IBIS cinema cameras to choose from. Don’t see why there can’t be one IBIS video camera though. 
Lots of professionals use a GH5 and its IBIS - and know when to turn it off and on depending on the shooting situation. 
I’m not asking for a cinema camera to shoot feature films on. I’m asking for a FS5/C100 workhorse MFT video camera (or Fuji X) with all the things video cameras have - and some tech transferred over from mirrorless cams. 
 

Quite true. That’s why there are dozens of non IBIS cinema cameras to choose from. Don’t see why there can’t be one IBIS video camera though. 
Lots of professionals use a GH5 and its IBIS - and know when to turn it off and on depending on the shooting situation. 
I’m not asking for a cinema camera to shoot feature films on. I’m asking for a FS5/C100 workhorse MFT video camera (or Fuji X) with all the things video cameras have - and some tech transferred over from mirrorless cams. 
 

Quite true. That’s why there are dozens of non IBIS cinema cameras to choose from. Don’t see why there can’t be one IBIS video camera though. 
Lots of professionals use a GH5 and its IBIS - and know when to turn it off and on depending on the shooting situation. 
I’m not asking for a cinema camera to shoot feature films on. I’m asking for a FS5/C100 workhorse MFT video camera (or Fuji X) with all the things video cameras have - and some tech transferred over from mirrorless cams. 
 

Yea it seems like a slam dunk if they can combine the GH5s low light with GH5 IBIS in there too. I think there’s a big user base who wants a stabilized mini cinema camera - but nobody will give it. 
 
 

I'm cutting an entire DPRTV episode shot on the S1 with 10 Bit 4:2:0 HLG. Not doing anything overly demanding, but I'm finding it has a really nice, organic look. You can all let me know what you think when it goes up this weekend.