nathlas

Half nude tragedy
Ok. Let's agree on this.
There is noone to buy those two cameras for AF perfomance. They both rely on same technology that we all know it's not efficient.
 
Let's concetrate on image quality thay can deliver.
 
 

Yes, you're also right. Even though, let's not forget RED helped to 5DII came out as well as nathlas accurately left expressed, the most closer serious contender by then was EUR 103,000 (Cinealta F900) I well recall if not else because I was in the middle of a cooperative project only to afford one unit.
I myself jumped out the RED wagon as far as investment concerns when 5DII just arrived. My purchase is from early 2009 and I even produced a feature shot on this camera model among several other projects shot on VDSLR as called then, this one ending where we aimed for once shot directly to the big screen:
http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?121856-Kickstarter-campaign
 
Still here are three threads by my initiative on reduser before I had joined Andrew when he created our community. The last one on a film-out report. The 2nd one counts among others with the participation of Graeme Nattress himself (the man behind RED's compressed RAW):
http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?20506-More-Canon-5D-Mark-II-footage
http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?22403-New-Canon-5D-Mark-II-samples
http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?29404-5D-Mark-II

Has anyone in here bought any Dalsa camera ?  ?
 In case you don't remember Dalsa's rental price was 3k$/day !!!  
How it compares with 15k$ to own RedOne ? 
Jannard's revolution made those camera affordable to all of us .

I'm sorry my fellow of boards, but such comparisons are truly unfair to say the least.
I've had my portion of personal contact with his people, work and company for a decade and a half now. Without mention to have had the privilege of private touch with the legend himself. Such antihero portrait is crappy lower resolution at best. Myth. Stinky sad one. Maybe if he would be a fool, he would equally bashed by usual detractors in a way or another.
It doesn't make justice to the individual who some other people have dealt with for real in the world over here.
 
On your compressed RAW remark, let's see:
They were the beginners to do it. Any doubt? Nothing else counts for the matter.
Would you do it in a different way? In the name of who or what?
They only protect their property.

He's a legend made by himself. Without him, we'd never have the prices as low as we have today. I heard this from the mouth of a Sony VP in person. The story on his health needs which taken him away to his deserved retirement is not new BTW. Just made public now. He's a warrior, this fight has years. He didn't stop, he kept it going.
As well his inventive market introductions. Massively distributed. Ahead of his time. Unique master of his craft. An example but for every producer. He is one of the key factors of the digital revolution. We owe him our tools of nowadays.
 
We really should appreciate gratitude. It's disgusting otherwise.

Indeed.
They skip the fact that we are talking about technology and sales plus innovation to cine industry.
Like we are Judges to judge if someone is a good or bad boss on his employees and like we are medical citics to investigate if someone has serious health issues or he is just tired and focus on his personal life.
We are here for other reasons.

Ι just don't want to imagine what our cine world would be without Jannard and his dream.
When Sony was asking more than 100k$ for a 2k cine camera and Jim delivered an -unfinished and unprepared but marvellous- camera for 15k$ ....
He was one of our breed's pioneers whether we like it or not.
I really respect him and owe him a lot .

Yeah unless you are certain of not buy RF lenses ( that would be weird since those lenses are the spear of R system) 
 
They should put that in body even if mount was projectile like BMPCC6k.
 
Adapter with control ring is also usefall but this one could be a forever addon IF you didn't have to put a clear filter to fill the hole (why have a clear filter instead of nothing? a simple cap would do the job unless there is a reason for a glass to exist in that place ? ) and if that included a control ring as well.

There's some reviews in on YouTube:
 

I’m pretty excited at least, gonna 3D print some accessories tonight 

We are on the hold till today.
 
Tomorrow is another future.

https://www.the-digital-picture.com/News/News-Post.aspx?News=33626&fbclid=IwAR1Wa9PyqGo9yJwGJlh5P55hl0a3Ajo_Kh1ZJnLc2jjfwCUZsmwFBnEwGrA
 
 
Well, case is solved then.
 
I assume that was a firmware evolution delay or clients pressure has done that .

https://www.the-digital-picture.com/News/News-Post.aspx?News=33626&fbclid=IwAR1Wa9PyqGo9yJwGJlh5P55hl0a3Ajo_Kh1ZJnLc2jjfwCUZsmwFBnEwGrA
 
 
Well, case is solved then.
 
I assume that was a firmware evolution delay or clients pressure has done that .

i tell the truth.But I encourage to continue try.
I haven't even mentioned   the colors. The way of shooting it's the main problem.
 

To be honest it's not even average.
You have to study a lot and most important see great videos and search the way they did those.
Catching a camera that is capable of decent to great image doesn't mean you are capable too.
Don't give up and keep going.
 
 

To be honest it's not even average.
You have to study a lot and most important see great videos and search the way they did those.
Catching a camera that is capable of decent to great image doesn't mean you are capable too.
Don't give up and keep going.
 
 

To be honest it's not even average.
You have to study a lot and most important see great videos and search the way they did those.
Catching a camera that is capable of decent to great image doesn't mean you are capable too.
Don't give up and keep going.
 
 

i tell the truth.But I encourage to continue try.
I haven't even mentioned   the colors. The way of shooting it's the main problem.
 

To be honest it's not even average.
You have to study a lot and most important see great videos and search the way they did those.
Catching a camera that is capable of decent to great image doesn't mean you are capable too.
Don't give up and keep going.
 
 

To be honest it's not even average.
You have to study a lot and most important see great videos and search the way they did those.
Catching a camera that is capable of decent to great image doesn't mean you are capable too.
Don't give up and keep going.
 
 

Agree. They gathered too many advantages plus the recording function.

I have a smallhd 701 that im replacing, looking at the 5inch BM one, Shinobi SDI, Portkeys BM5, and the Smallhd 502 bright. 
I don't even need a recorder it's just a bonus.
However that 5'' 12G seems perfect. Dual batteries, 2500 nits, great UI, Lut preview, metal body, full range of scopes. AND it can record.
This might be the one boys. 

Maybe this is the RED Komodo ....if they manage to release that camera.

And ride unicorns.

The autofocus adapter will be available in early 2020.