Mako Sports

1. FS5 w/100 - 400 G master. Sometimes I'll run a 70 210 f4 FD or a 70-300 FD.
2. I eat, sleep, and breath, the sport of lacrosse. I hate video but I love color grading. College Sophomore. 
3. I like rap/hip hop mostly but I listen to some 80s style synth occasionally. The breakfast Club and Top Gun are my favorite movies. 
4. Please cover more lenses both vintage and modern, id like to see some stuff about the SLR magic primes and Zeiss CP.3s. Since ima Sony Fan boy A7siii or FX6.
5. Sweet Tea (if your from the South East US, you know what I'm talking about.)
6. I believe 2018. 

Honestly the XT-3 was already ahead of the NX1 in everything except ergonomics, XT-4 far surpasses that with IBIS, LOG, and far better rolling shutter performance. 
Only thing that the NX1 beats it at is the body design.

I totally forgot that Slog 3 exists due to the fact I'm used to running 8 bit cameras. But I've been testing it the last few days and am super impressed with how easily it grades.
I made an Slog 3 LC 709 conversion lut for grading. I expose my Slog 3 on the Sony FS5 at 1.5 stops over. With Bright at 77 IRE - You can use a conjunction of AE shift and the variable ND filter set to auto to make exposing really easy. 
Only thing bad about Slog 3 is that its a bitch when trying to monitor. Its like comparing Slog 2 vs Cine 4. It's VERY flat which makes it hard to check focus. 
 
Conversion Lut - https://www.dropbox.com/s/6yrozb1z5olhez9/Slog3 LC 709 Correction.cube?dl=0 
Just use a creative lut after you apply this one and with some minor exposure tweaking you should be good. (You will probably need to lower the Luts intensity) 

I think anybody using the internal preamps and 3.5mm jack will be recording very casual audio anyway
So does the quality even matter that much?

I totally forgot that Slog 3 exists due to the fact I'm used to running 8 bit cameras. But I've been testing it the last few days and am super impressed with how easily it grades.
I made an Slog 3 LC 709 conversion lut for grading. I expose my Slog 3 on the Sony FS5 at 1.5 stops over. With Bright at 77 IRE - You can use a conjunction of AE shift and the variable ND filter set to auto to make exposing really easy. 
Only thing bad about Slog 3 is that its a bitch when trying to monitor. Its like comparing Slog 2 vs Cine 4. It's VERY flat which makes it hard to check focus. 
 
Conversion Lut - https://www.dropbox.com/s/6yrozb1z5olhez9/Slog3 LC 709 Correction.cube?dl=0 
Just use a creative lut after you apply this one and with some minor exposure tweaking you should be good. (You will probably need to lower the Luts intensity) 

Congrats, just shoot with it and see if everyting works.

Nothing like waking up in the morning for some upbeat, optimistic and joyful camera news!

I agree with many things Trump does and disagree with many others. Anyone who completely agrees or disagrees with anyone, including God, is probably a Communist, not because he doesn't have opinions, but because there is an absolute ban on expressing any opinion, not in complete compliance with the dictats of the top leadership. 
This post almost seems like it's right out of Communist China or USSR under Stalin or Lenin or Germany under Hitler.
In any civil world, one can Agree to Agree or Agree to Disagree, and both choices are respected. Lack of choice is the foundation of Communism, whether disguised as hard left, or modern age liberals trolling anyone and everyone on social media and in public, even their own brethren, if opinions aren't expressed by an exact expression of phrases and words, including calling everyone else in disagreement with themselves (including non radical liberals) as fascists and racists and evil and (ironically) intolerant and other names.   
If the whole purpose of this post is about politics, maybe politics should be kept out of discussions here. Or dedicate a thread to political discussions (if political discussion can ever be called that).
Ban me or ban whoever you want. There is a huge chance that many of us won't make it past a few weeks from now, thanks to a China created and criminally and negligently spread virus. So it probably won't even matter.

Looking at recent posts objectively, it is always the same users who end a perfectly good discussion on this forum with toxic bullshit.
I am coming after you.
It is a cull.
It isn't about politics.
It's about values!
To protect a community I love... I have no choice.
To be clear, it is none of my business which way you vote. What matters is behaviour, character, values.
If you've been a good contributor here and kind to people you get to stay.
If not, then you are going to be asked to leave and I will pursue people who return under a different name.
This is purely because there are now far too many posts being trashed and too much arguing driven by people with the wrong values which I despise.
I am going to use this week to draw up a list of people who strongly align themselves with Trump's politics of America First.
And I will be getting rid of the lot of you.
Yes you can say it's a political purge but I prefer to think of it as purely about values and about protecting users who DO contribute positively to the forum.
If these idiots are allowed to get away with bringing Trump idolising bullshit into this community then all our work will be for nothing and Russia with their fake-user farms will have won too, because I am 99% sure at least a few of the idiots are completely made-up shill users whose role is to divide us politically and weaken our online communities.
At a time when we must pull together as a camera-community, as filmmaking industry, even as a country, indeed as a world - to get through tough economic times ahead - dumb arguments which ignore factual data are a waste of time.
What has happened to the world in recent weeks is stressful enough and I personally do not need to hear from certain people in every thread. I will not be providing a platform for Red cap wearing idiots who haven't contributed a single shot or image to this forum.
I get that EOSHD has a big US readership, in fact the US contribution to my site is the largest in the world and I want to keep as many of you as possible and not lose any friends who just happen to disagree with me on politics.
But if you are going to be a shill for Trump's politics or somebody who is a complete shit-stirrer and troll, then I will no longer be turning a blind eye to it and the cull starts now...
Have fun on your way out.

New Yorker is a Left Biased magazine, you can not expect objectiveness from a media like that, obviously nobody except Left Biased people will believe on it.
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/new-yorker/

Haven't searched too hard for bargain prices, but don't you still need a SDI recorder to capture raw? Once you get there, you're in the neighborhood (or do you spell it neighhbourhood?) of a E2-S6 with the E-ND mount. Just saying there are others in the same price bracket.
Not to go OT, but I did see a DPAF c100 for $600 USD, which seems insane.
Chris
Your stuff is incredibly well done, you've really found your niche. Size-wise the FS5 is pretty much perfect for a run and gun camcorder, its not much bigger than a DSLR with everything stripped off it.
Chris

Currently in the honeymoon phase with my FS5. I bought mine mid summer last year and it took a couple of months to get the images I wanted from it. Here's a mix of games I shot a few weeks ago.
10 bit 422 240fps in 1080p with no crop has been amazing. 
Variable ND filter is a game changer as well. 
FS7 dropping in price is tempting ngl, but the FS5 is so much smaller and easier to travel with. 
FX9 inside of an FS5 body (which is definitly possible) is my dream camera.
Great DR, class leading cine cam autofocus, class leading cine cam lowlight performance with dual native iso, variable ND, great mic preamps, and a rugged body. 😵

"Shane Hurlbut, ASC Makes Illumination Experience Workshop Free"
I plan to start watching tomorrow afternoon. 
 
https://www.provideocoalition.com/shane-hurlbut-asc-makes-illumination-experience-workshop-free/
 
 

Great work. The opening shot of the video you posted is amazing. Just the determination on the face of the athletes in the first scene draws you in. 
Any idea why male players are required to wear a full helmet and cage while female players only wear goggles? Are women somehow immune to concussions / head trauma???

"Shane Hurlbut, ASC Makes Illumination Experience Workshop Free"
I plan to start watching tomorrow afternoon. 
 
https://www.provideocoalition.com/shane-hurlbut-asc-makes-illumination-experience-workshop-free/
 
 

Thanks, I always shoot on a tripod. I deliver B-roll style highlight mixes after the game.
I plan to make some videos about how I shoot, although the Covid19 outbreak has put a halt on sports stuff I can shoot. 

Currently in the honeymoon phase with my FS5. I bought mine mid summer last year and it took a couple of months to get the images I wanted from it. Here's a mix of games I shot a few weeks ago.
10 bit 422 240fps in 1080p with no crop has been amazing. 
Variable ND filter is a game changer as well. 
FS7 dropping in price is tempting ngl, but the FS5 is so much smaller and easier to travel with. 
FX9 inside of an FS5 body (which is definitly possible) is my dream camera.
Great DR, class leading cine cam autofocus, class leading cine cam lowlight performance with dual native iso, variable ND, great mic preamps, and a rugged body. 😵

"Shane Hurlbut, ASC Makes Illumination Experience Workshop Free"
I plan to start watching tomorrow afternoon. 
 
https://www.provideocoalition.com/shane-hurlbut-asc-makes-illumination-experience-workshop-free/
 
 

"Shane Hurlbut, ASC Makes Illumination Experience Workshop Free"
I plan to start watching tomorrow afternoon. 
 
https://www.provideocoalition.com/shane-hurlbut-asc-makes-illumination-experience-workshop-free/
 
 

"Shane Hurlbut, ASC Makes Illumination Experience Workshop Free"
I plan to start watching tomorrow afternoon. 
 
https://www.provideocoalition.com/shane-hurlbut-asc-makes-illumination-experience-workshop-free/
 
 

Thanks for the explanation. I always like how they describe a sport as "non-contact." Seems to me there is a lot of contact in "non-contact" sports.

Those are some great images. I'd love to know more about your technique. Are you shooting locked down on a tripod? Are you delivering real-time game footage or just b-roll style highlight packages? Stuff like that. Just curious. 

Currently in the honeymoon phase with my FS5. I bought mine mid summer last year and it took a couple of months to get the images I wanted from it. Here's a mix of games I shot a few weeks ago.
10 bit 422 240fps in 1080p with no crop has been amazing. 
Variable ND filter is a game changer as well. 
FS7 dropping in price is tempting ngl, but the FS5 is so much smaller and easier to travel with. 
FX9 inside of an FS5 body (which is definitly possible) is my dream camera.
Great DR, class leading cine cam autofocus, class leading cine cam lowlight performance with dual native iso, variable ND, great mic preamps, and a rugged body. 😵

Currently in the honeymoon phase with my FS5. I bought mine mid summer last year and it took a couple of months to get the images I wanted from it. Here's a mix of games I shot a few weeks ago.
10 bit 422 240fps in 1080p with no crop has been amazing. 
Variable ND filter is a game changer as well. 
FS7 dropping in price is tempting ngl, but the FS5 is so much smaller and easier to travel with. 
FX9 inside of an FS5 body (which is definitly possible) is my dream camera.
Great DR, class leading cine cam autofocus, class leading cine cam lowlight performance with dual native iso, variable ND, great mic preamps, and a rugged body. 😵

Hey guys,
I wanted to let everyone know my experience so far after upgrading to a Sony FS5 in 2020. With all the camera options out there is the FS5 and FS5ii still worth it in 2020?
With all the options out there is the FS5 right for you?  Comes down to your needs but for me it checked all my boxes.
FS5 is light and portable and can be rigged.up to fly on modern gimbals easily.  It also can be shoulder mounted with help of 3rd party accessories,  I recommend smallrig bc of versatility and build quality, and price.
Coming from A7riii the learning curve and all the buttons on side looked daunting. But I suggest getting Doug Jensens course masterclass FS5 off vimeo which took me through step by step to learn camera inside out. Plus also get his vortex media PP for straight out of camera shots. Sooc.
After learning the camera and the PP and slog2, you shoot over exposed in slog so you set your zebras and your good to go.
What unleashes the power of this camera is the RAW sdi output. The FS5 has 3x firmware paid upgrades. 1. Raw, 2. HFR 3. MPEG codec. Each are $500. With these upgrades installed the FS5 becomes a FS5ii, minus PP1. Which on m2 has different color science on pp1, but when you shoot slog 2 and raw or any other PP above 7, then the RAW out thru SDI is all the same.
To unleash this power you must purchase the atomos shogun inferno which I did. This gives you ability to do prores raw 12 bit to an ssd. The cost of ssd have come down and 500gb cost $65. Spots as affordable medium.
The reason I chose the FS5 vs a BMPCC 4k or 6k , or canon c200. Or eva1 or ursa cane down to a few reasons.
 
1. Price - most bang for your buck
2. Auto ND filter - is a game changer. Best thing ever.
3. IQ - with external recorder 12 bit prores raw is powerful
4.  Versatility , I can go from tripod, to shoulder mount, to monopod, to gimbal
5. Battery Life,  I can use BPU60 batteries to power both the FS5 and Shogun 7in at the same time and get about 2 hrs of juice.
6. E mount - I am already invested heavily in E mount glass so that played a role.
7. Speedbooster to get FF look. I can use a speedbooster to get that FF dof with any EF glass.
8. Centerscan - allows the use of my vtg som. Berthiot and bell and howell vtg lenses for video with no vignette. Also use clear image zoom in 4k mode to 1.5 zoom. No vignettes.
9. Slow motion - 2k 240fps continuous prores raw. HFR - 4k 120p 7 sec burst.
10.  Professional and Outputs.  XLR audio inputs and SDI outputs are professional grade. Multiple inputs for professional sound. And professional SDI output which is night and day  better vs consumer HDMI..
For my situation and needs, the auto ND is only offered through Sony.  The auto ND has changed everything.  It allows you to shoot w an extra parameter that auto adjusts on fly realtime. No other camera offers Auto ND.
Its amazing.. truly amazing..
As for anyone who says sony color science is awful. Blah blah blah.. yes if you shoot naked in pp1 or pp2 default.  But you can make changes in paint menu and use Eos HD pp or Vortex media  pp if you need a baked in shot.
But if you got an atomos your gonna be shooting slog2 or slog2 and sony has technical luts to get the images right there w lil work in post. If you are efficient and just have a little knowledge in resolve you can make your image quality match any other camera on list above.
If you are looking to buy Sony FS7 or FS5 now is the time with finding amazing deals online. Remember FS5 is same as FS5ii if it has the upgrades. Minus pp1. Which m2 has a better color science baked in for just pp1. But slog2 and slog2 and raw out all have same look. After all it's the same sensor.
My experience has been pretty amazing so far. With release of fx9 and soon to be fx6. Prices will drop even farther. If your invested in sonys eco system maybe it's right for you.  if your invested in Canon EF glass the fs5 allows you to use a speedbooster to turn camera into FF and gain an extra stop if light. Pretty kool.
What this camera is NOT...
1. It's not the low light king. If u want low light use a A7sii or A7riii w BSI sensors or use new FX9 or FX6 when it drops.
2. Real cinema cameras dont have AF. But that's about to change. Get FX9 for eye AF if invested in E mount glass. If you got EF glass the c200 has Dual pixel AF and so does the C100 new. Version though no 4k in the c100. Also I'm told the c200 build quality is very thin cheap plastic, though I have no experience.
Ultimately at the end of the day, the Atomos  Shogun unlocks full potential of the FS5 and delivers prores raw to the masses in 4k DCI 12 bit raw. The newest $11k at the moment can only do UHD.
As for prores raw workflows, at this time Mar 2020. Prores raw is on FCPx on mac. Windows users will need assimilate scratch 9.1 to be able to transcode on windows.
Avid media composer and premiere pro both stated in Sept 2019 they will build in natively prores raw support. I know Adobe is still working on it and not available yet as if March 2020, and avid media composer I do not know if its available yet.
I can confirm 100% assimilate scratch9.1 works with prores raw on windows and you can transcode from there.
Da Vinci resolve does not allow prores raw but they may allow prores? I dont know I will have to 2x check that or have some1 more knowledge comment.
Once its released thru adobe pp and avid that will cement prores raw for years to come as a raw format .
I have only had my new camera for a few weeks but I have been tickled pink with the IQ and looks I'm getting not to mention the price I was able to get it for.  The camera is a workhorse so far.  Its gone above and beyond my expectations.  I will continue to update my experiences but dont think bc its 5 yrs old it's not able to get the job done. With the prores raw 12bit sdi out, I would put that IQ against anything out there. If u need FF get a speedbooster and use EF glass.  The prices have dropped on FS5 and FS7 but these guys hold their own even to the newest latest and greatest.