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I understand this thread as opportunity for (the most serious and well minded) message to Panasonic.
Blog post summarized it all.
What I can add as small holistic addition is suggestion that it is the last chance for Panasonic (or it will be done by somebody else) to collect all very important and still distinctive virtues of m43 system and finally offer them in one camera. I mean, don't behave as not too smart little calculating coward - because moment of camera evolution doesn't allow to be as such.
Barrier of price has been already broke through  - I think that even 3000e starting price for m43 movie making machine is pretty competitive with added qualities mentioned in blog post. At the end of a day, this clearly is territory for professionals who make money with camera, or for high end enthusiasts (finding field of deeper self-actualisation in camera usage) seeking for best artistic instrument.
Being now pretty serious involved in sort of art creation, my experience with both m43 and FF system told me that - at least in that field of interest - they are clearly not competitive, but different in some very important areas.
For just one example: contrary, as it seems, to most public, I found that possibility to get deeper DOF with better light gathering (even more taking into account modern sensor sensitiveness) is crucial for my way of thinking. For making truly rich art experience, shallow DOF has to be used extremely sparingly, or even not at all. There is far more demanded mastery, and respective distinctive achievement, in capability to arrange scene with meaningful and seriously thought out content in background, than cheaply and lazy blurred it. Potential in transferring complex and deeper message in just one shot is at the side of deeper DOF, but demands more talented mind and much more crafting mastery.
Being so close to the perfectly capable camera regarding compactness, reliability, ergonomic, RAW as best codec, ND, maybe or not IBIS, with best possible 4k delivery quality as indeed far away future proof, etc mentioned in blog post - price gap of say 500e is not so important. Nor the race between m43 and FF who understand their distinctive virtues.
Chance to sooner bring to table the most rounded instrument is still on the m43 side with its lens ecosystem, including affordable cheap truly cine zoom solutions such as, at the moment, say DZO film's. Even with fast gradually catching up, of course including bonus crop choice, FF system is not even close to offer comparatively affordable and compact cine zoom lens.

I understand this thread as opportunity for (the most serious and well minded) message to Panasonic.
Blog post summarized it all.
What I can add as small holistic addition is suggestion that it is the last chance for Panasonic (or it will be done by somebody else) to collect all very important and still distinctive virtues of m43 system and finally offer them in one camera. I mean, don't behave as not too smart little calculating coward - because moment of camera evolution doesn't allow to be as such.
Barrier of price has been already broke through  - I think that even 3000e starting price for m43 movie making machine is pretty competitive with added qualities mentioned in blog post. At the end of a day, this clearly is territory for professionals who make money with camera, or for high end enthusiasts (finding field of deeper self-actualisation in camera usage) seeking for best artistic instrument.
Being now pretty serious involved in sort of art creation, my experience with both m43 and FF system told me that - at least in that field of interest - they are clearly not competitive, but different in some very important areas.
For just one example: contrary, as it seems, to most public, I found that possibility to get deeper DOF with better light gathering (even more taking into account modern sensor sensitiveness) is crucial for my way of thinking. For making truly rich art experience, shallow DOF has to be used extremely sparingly, or even not at all. There is far more demanded mastery, and respective distinctive achievement, in capability to arrange scene with meaningful and seriously thought out content in background, than cheaply and lazy blurred it. Potential in transferring complex and deeper message in just one shot is at the side of deeper DOF, but demands more talented mind and much more crafting mastery.
Being so close to the perfectly capable camera regarding compactness, reliability, ergonomic, RAW as best codec, ND, maybe or not IBIS, with best possible 4k delivery quality as indeed far away future proof, etc mentioned in blog post - price gap of say 500e is not so important. Nor the race between m43 and FF who understand their distinctive virtues.
Chance to sooner bring to table the most rounded instrument is still on the m43 side with its lens ecosystem, including affordable cheap truly cine zoom solutions such as, at the moment, say DZO film's. Even with fast gradually catching up, of course including bonus crop choice, FF system is not even close to offer comparatively affordable and compact cine zoom lens.

I understand this thread as opportunity for (the most serious and well minded) message to Panasonic.
Blog post summarized it all.
What I can add as small holistic addition is suggestion that it is the last chance for Panasonic (or it will be done by somebody else) to collect all very important and still distinctive virtues of m43 system and finally offer them in one camera. I mean, don't behave as not too smart little calculating coward - because moment of camera evolution doesn't allow to be as such.
Barrier of price has been already broke through  - I think that even 3000e starting price for m43 movie making machine is pretty competitive with added qualities mentioned in blog post. At the end of a day, this clearly is territory for professionals who make money with camera, or for high end enthusiasts (finding field of deeper self-actualisation in camera usage) seeking for best artistic instrument.
Being now pretty serious involved in sort of art creation, my experience with both m43 and FF system told me that - at least in that field of interest - they are clearly not competitive, but different in some very important areas.
For just one example: contrary, as it seems, to most public, I found that possibility to get deeper DOF with better light gathering (even more taking into account modern sensor sensitiveness) is crucial for my way of thinking. For making truly rich art experience, shallow DOF has to be used extremely sparingly, or even not at all. There is far more demanded mastery, and respective distinctive achievement, in capability to arrange scene with meaningful and seriously thought out content in background, than cheaply and lazy blurred it. Potential in transferring complex and deeper message in just one shot is at the side of deeper DOF, but demands more talented mind and much more crafting mastery.
Being so close to the perfectly capable camera regarding compactness, reliability, ergonomic, RAW as best codec, ND, maybe or not IBIS, with best possible 4k delivery quality as indeed far away future proof, etc mentioned in blog post - price gap of say 500e is not so important. Nor the race between m43 and FF who understand their distinctive virtues.
Chance to sooner bring to table the most rounded instrument is still on the m43 side with its lens ecosystem, including affordable cheap truly cine zoom solutions such as, at the moment, say DZO film's. Even with fast gradually catching up, of course including bonus crop choice, FF system is not even close to offer comparatively affordable and compact cine zoom lens.

What a honest and noble behavior - not just to admit similar quality, but also to further explain it. Hat down, sir.

happy and merry everything guys

Another year over and what a shit one it was, to be quite frank about it. We all deserve a bit of peace and happiness at Christmas after this, to get our spirits up so that's my hope for all of you - have a good one, and cheers for your EOSHD-ing all year through thick and thin, keep the passion and let's keep our heads above water!
And I hope all your front rooms look as great as this...
 

Never liked the original one - well documented in this forum and others!
C70 seems like the way forward, I just hope every new release will lower the C70 price tag, until I can reach it. Lately I do more specific TV jobs (assistant director and whatnot), I do not need more cameras, but for a thousand less, I would definitely get the C70 just to look at it late at night when I come back from the episodic TV madness!

Hi @Kisaha, sorry for delayed visiting to forum...
No, I'm from Serbia, but as you might know, Serbia&Montenegro are actually the exact same people historically/politically being together or divided (as now) to two countries. (Being passionate and trained swimmer at summer and winter without difference) I spend there as much time as I can.
If you don't mean actual covid-circumstances, apart of it - it is of course absolutely safe country, especially beautiful at here filmed part of its coast (places of Boka bay) famous as very unique and one the most beautiful and deepest bay in the world.
About movie - I've made preparation and started with few shots of one indie-movie last autumn in Russia, but Corona stopped plan of devoted whole spring/summer 2020 to it. So I gathered little crew during late summer - so, 2-3 months ago - in Montenegro and also started with several shots with them, with idea to proceed this winter/spring. Several of chosen locations are here briefly presented. Actually, whole idea for movie in Russia also started with meetings in Montenegro coast.
(And just for the case of little bit of clearing of my background and circumstances - actually and basically I'm writer/novelist with some of 15-20 novels published as Collected works and also with several written Ph. D. dissertation in Philosophy, Psychology and History of Arts topics, all parts of mine education... and struggling to earn money during lifetime always as freelancer. But started from several years ago I'm more and more devoted also to building personal narrative film making area, and because of my background I supposed easier to managed other people to participate in some enjoyable projects. So, in that line, it turned out that at the moment some pretty profiled and educated people - musical and dance artists, painters etc - from Russia are the most open minded and willing to reunite resources and skills to make something new and, I hope, aesthetically pleasing experience.)

While shooting an semi long feature film latest days of this summer, I took a breath and one day climbed around and casually recorded some used locations with lovely Pocket 4k.
Maybe it would not be too boring, so just little bit оf reminding of of the beauty of not so distant nature, so happy living out of our - so often desperately and absurdly busy - human world...
 

While shooting an semi long feature film latest days of this summer, I took a breath and one day climbed around and casually recorded some used locations with lovely Pocket 4k.
Maybe it would not be too boring, so just little bit оf reminding of of the beauty of not so distant nature, so happy living out of our - so often desperately and absurdly busy - human world...
 

While shooting an semi long feature film latest days of this summer, I took a breath and one day climbed around and casually recorded some used locations with lovely Pocket 4k.
Maybe it would not be too boring, so just little bit оf reminding of of the beauty of not so distant nature, so happy living out of our - so often desperately and absurdly busy - human world...
 

While shooting an semi long feature film latest days of this summer, I took a breath and one day climbed around and casually recorded some used locations with lovely Pocket 4k.
Maybe it would not be too boring, so just little bit оf reminding of of the beauty of not so distant nature, so happy living out of our - so often desperately and absurdly busy - human world...
 

While shooting an semi long feature film latest days of this summer, I took a breath and one day climbed around and casually recorded some used locations with lovely Pocket 4k.
Maybe it would not be too boring, so just little bit оf reminding of of the beauty of not so distant nature, so happy living out of our - so often desperately and absurdly busy - human world...
 

Sorry, being busy for a while... but luckily mr nickname answered/suggested better than I could. I use also Hoya IRcut with Hoya ND without any issue, but I don't use polarizing filter. Rocolax has the same quality, just cheaper, friend of mine bought for me in UK.
I had  OLPF filter with first Pocket just because I bought it with already installed one - extremely helped with moire problem that luckily doesn't exists with P4K.   

Pocket 64 vs Alexa Mini
 

I'm afraid that this thread actually approves something that Panasonic management is highly afraid of (although loudly claiming the opposite) - that hypothetical GH6 and S line indeed severely overlapped in most critical user/buyers base that is left to Panasonic as slightly comparative advantage. Most of us who'd buy an great-specs-provided GH6 will never look at unnecessarily expensive S(H) line for next 3 years... and actually we are the main targeted group of potential buyers whom Panasonic stuff mostly tries  to allure to FF line.
 Unfortunately, from indefinite phrases as "we will consider", "we will see or still evaluate" etc. it seems to me that development of GH6 is not at all in progress, as also that they'd rather connect eventual/suspectful dying future of m43 to some low level type of camera for lighter consumer usage.
Needless to say that I disagree with such decision even from economic side. And same as previous posters already noted their favorite alternative choices,  without GH6 in plan I feel BM as main provider for my personal needs. 
Till now it is clear that FF line is total selling fiasco in Europe and not too better elsewhere. I simply can't understand why Panasonic don't choose rather to make and sell tones of swan song model of GH6, catch proper moment to attracts all Pocket 4k and/or Olympus users and keep enormous base of loyal GH5 users....     

Ah, beautiful video. The art of making the seemingly ordinary visible as something extraordinarily beautiful. The unprentious rhythm, the photographic gestalt. Well, fantastic. Thanks for going the extra mile! Schloss Charlottenburg! Some shots are breathtaking!

More to come from this beast!
 

I'd like to welcome Kazuto Yamaki, CEO of Sigma and the product manager of the Sigma Fp and Cinema lenses, Takuma Wakamatsu to the pages of EOSHD for this long interview!
I have recently been shooting with anamorphic with my Sigma Fp - the video you can see above is shot with the Rapido Technologies FVD-16A focus module housing a tiny Bolex Moller 8/19 anamorphic. I have more on this soon, as well as how ProRes RAW performs on the Sigma Fp attached to Atomos Ninja V.
Ever since the Sigma embarked on the high quality ART lenses the company's factory has output higher and higher quality products, even industry leading lenses in fact. Now the Sigma Fp marks their entry into filmmaking cameras too with internal 4K RAW recording, external ProRes RAW and even BRAW - as well as being the smallest interchangeable lens full frame camera available on the market.
Read the full interview:
https://www.eoshd.com/news/the-eoshd-interview-kazuto-yamaki-ceo-of-sigma-and-takuma-wakamatsu-sigma-fp-product-manager/

I'm afraid that this thread actually approves something that Panasonic management is highly afraid of (although loudly claiming the opposite) - that hypothetical GH6 and S line indeed severely overlapped in most critical user/buyers base that is left to Panasonic as slightly comparative advantage. Most of us who'd buy an great-specs-provided GH6 will never look at unnecessarily expensive S(H) line for next 3 years... and actually we are the main targeted group of potential buyers whom Panasonic stuff mostly tries  to allure to FF line.
 Unfortunately, from indefinite phrases as "we will consider", "we will see or still evaluate" etc. it seems to me that development of GH6 is not at all in progress, as also that they'd rather connect eventual/suspectful dying future of m43 to some low level type of camera for lighter consumer usage.
Needless to say that I disagree with such decision even from economic side. And same as previous posters already noted their favorite alternative choices,  without GH6 in plan I feel BM as main provider for my personal needs. 
Till now it is clear that FF line is total selling fiasco in Europe and not too better elsewhere. I simply can't understand why Panasonic don't choose rather to make and sell tones of swan song model of GH6, catch proper moment to attracts all Pocket 4k and/or Olympus users and keep enormous base of loyal GH5 users....     

IMO I bag you pardon, maybe it would be better to involve some more time to really investigate where all of this one and thousands similar cases are proved to be pure sad true? If you have a will, I can provide it to you, but not here to further contaminate thread already polluted  with superficial news level.  I think, It's surely not at all about someone's favorite side (dirty and immoral ones are everywhere the same) - which you introduced with something that has to be a provocative joke and default fact - but about favorite and really independent state of mind.
And of course, my big apologize to you and all others - it is always my dilemma weather to answer to something I feel as superficial provocations that sometimes arise at inappropriate  place. Maybe just only to remind all of us (with me as so sadly often first-place-candidate!) and add suggestion at called-out level of picture-to-picture answer

https://lists.bcn.mythic-beasts.com/pipermail/bitlist/2008-October/000400.html

No, IMO they are just, in their inner deep, simple moral prostitutes. Their living depends of cheap showcase flirting with internet visitors of their shopwindows. Even their idiotic sugary versions of unison quasi friendly calling to you at the beginning of their luring IBIS dance - is echo of prostitute's behavior, of course not at all so honestly open and much more sophisticated vulgar. Look just at that blondе - so much effort to look funny, intimate and close, so much usage of space as (his and his co-prostitutes) smiling brothel.

TBH and with best wishes to mr Reid's efforts that already achieved their honest goal without supporters - that bald guy looks to me as just another package of obscurity.  As also his (more sympathetic naive) psychologically typical advisory/conspiracy space arrangement of deep knowledge cave. IMO someone stole his dreamy ideal - so let's to be a little part of it.
It looks as counter-twin brother of that another advisory guy with presenting room where forever stays Christmas Eve...

TBH and with best wishes to mr Reid's efforts that already achieved their honest goal without supporters - that bald guy looks to me as just another package of obscurity.  As also his (more sympathetic naive) psychologically typical advisory/conspiracy space arrangement of deep knowledge cave. IMO someone stole his dreamy ideal - so let's to be a little part of it.
It looks as counter-twin brother of that another advisory guy with presenting room where forever stays Christmas Eve...