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No zebra's and a histogram that disappears after you press record?? Did not see anyone else mentioning this up untill now. Canon crippled the camera just enough to make it clear their c-line is for video. Kai also again mentions RS and shows it, better watch quickly before he ninja-edits it out again.

No zebra's and a histogram that disappears after you press record?? Did not see anyone else mentioning this up untill now. Canon crippled the camera just enough to make it clear their c-line is for video. Kai also again mentions RS and shows it, better watch quickly before he ninja-edits it out again.

No zebra's and a histogram that disappears after you press record?? Did not see anyone else mentioning this up untill now. Canon crippled the camera just enough to make it clear their c-line is for video. Kai also again mentions RS and shows it, better watch quickly before he ninja-edits it out again.

No zebra's and a histogram that disappears after you press record?? Did not see anyone else mentioning this up untill now. Canon crippled the camera just enough to make it clear their c-line is for video. Kai also again mentions RS and shows it, better watch quickly before he ninja-edits it out again.

Why say it is worse when you also can show? I"ll believe it when I can see it.
 

Only if you need controlled motion, in my case it's not worth the extra cost, I only use it for a few slides troughout the weddingday and then it's just fine to manually move the slider.
That only works in the beginning of the day.

Only if you need controlled motion, in my case it's not worth the extra cost, I only use it for a few slides troughout the weddingday and then it's just fine to manually move the slider.
That only works in the beginning of the day.

The rolling shutter in this video looks just as bad in 4K as the one you posted on the eos r, why won't you show your comparison result? 
 

I think you are refering to Vadim Action? I also liked his work, he has some recent weddingvideos on YouTube, here is one of his em5 videos from a couple of years ago, not sure what he uses today.
 

I would just buy a electronic gimbal that supports the weight of your 5D, they are a lot easier to operate for beginners and can be used in windy conditions. Mechanical steadicams like a glidecam requires much more experience and are trown off balance more easily outside. A true horizon gimbal head would be interesting if you allready own a glidecam (and vest/arm)  but if not save yourselve the trouble and get a gimbal instead, gimbals will allow you to quicker achieve controlled movements.

Much depends on who your clients are and what you use the camera for, I mainly shoot weddings and 4K had given me nothing but advantages:
I am selling a 4K file to my clients since this year (for 2018-19 weddings) as a paid option, About 7 out of 10 clients takes it, not because all are able to benefit from it now but they will in years to come. 4K might not be "standard" now but it eventually will be. Some of my clients do have a big 4K screen, I have one too to showcase 4K, 4K on a big screen looks much nicer then 1080p does.
I often get the question if it's not possible to take framegrabs from my films, it is not a substitute for photography but it can be an addition for shots the photographer have missed and a 4K framegrab is a lot better then a 1080p one when they want to print photos.
I also take framegrabs from 4K footage for prints that I use on my blu-ray's, I used to take photos but now I don't have to switch anymore and just concentrate on video and take out high rez framegrabs out afterwards, instead of 1 photo I now have 25 photos every second to choose from.
The weddings I shoot this year are still delivered in 1080p and there I make use of the cropping ability in post which can make a difference if you are a solo shooter, I know I will loose that option once I deliver in 4K but that inconvenience is quickly forgotten if I see that I can charge 20% on top of my package price for almost no extra work. There will come a moment that 4K might be standard and I can't charge extra for it anymore but that I feel is still a few year away.
My clients always get a 1080p file as well, together with the 4K one if they have choosen for that and downscaled 1080p from 4K looks better then when I shoot 1080p, I have several 4K capable panasonic camera's and they all produce better looking footage in 4K with less artifacts.
My workflow is hardly affected, I do have more data to handle (a average wedding is between 200 and 350GB) but it doesn't slow my workflow down, I edit all my 4K files natively in Edius and in real time on a 3 year old computer, this includes multicam and colorcorrecting my footage or applying luts. Exporting is also very fast since Edius uses quicksync to accelerate rendering.
So as you can see for some areas 4K has it's benefits but I can understand it doesn't have the same advantages for many others.

Not sure where you get the idea that weddingshooters prefer higher-end pro camera's, most are switching to a sony a7sII/a6500 set up and some do use a fs5 but mainly for longer recordings, the gh5 is also gaining popularity among the weddingshooter community and the canon 5dIII is also still widely used, the 5d4 is less popular. The canon 1dc is also still used by some high end weddingvideographers. The c100 is also a very popular camera but the c200 is not because of it's high pricepoint. From all these mentioned camera's the sony a7sII is by far the most popular one so to say that weddingvideographers only prefer the higher-end pro camera's is just not true, maybe for a few individuals but certainly not for the entire weddingcommunity. I know because I"m in a weddingvideographer facebookgroup that has over 13000 members and all the big names in the weddingindustry are member there as well so you get a pretty good idea what gear is used in general. 

From what I have heared you need the canon mount speedbooster version if you don't want any issues, it appears that version does not require you to dial in the focal length each time you zoom. Autofocussing by halfpressing the shutter works but is reported to be slower then with native lenses. I also have the 12-35mm f2.8 which is one of those must have lenses if you are on m4/3, I also have the olympus 12-40 f2.8 which I find to be a better lens, it has a clutch focus ring which you can pull back to switch to manual focus and eventhough it still is fly by wire it feels more like a mechanical lens with very good gradual focus changes, something the 12-35mm can't do, it also has hard stops making repeatable focus pull possible. The IBIS from the camera alone is good enough to keep your shots stable since the 12-40 has no IS. When things move fast and if you work solo these zoom lenses can make a big difference compared to fully manual primes if you want to nail your focus.
 

I like Johnnie Behiri's mini-docs a lot when he tests new camera's and I wish more sites that do reviews would follow his example instead of only talk about a camera, pixelpeep and use blown up framegrabs. Ideally it should be a combination of both, a detailed test like Gordon Laing at cameralabs does but geared towards videofunctionality only and then add a nicely shot short documentary. Until that happens our only choice is to look at as many reviews and uservideos, try to filter out the crap and try to make a informed decision before buying to eventually find out the camera has flaws that have not been mentioned by anyone so far.  

To be fair, Andrew didn't provide any evidence either because he doesn't have the camera yet, he probably is right but his reaction seems more based on a frustration that Panasonic didn't send him a unit, the same as with the Gratical Eye Yoclay mentioned, also there he forms an opinion based on specification only and telling us how great this unit would be with a gh4 or a7s while "forgetting" and not even mentioning it has a sdi output only, even ignoring it when Yoclay mentions it. This also looked to me like a sugarcoated article with a "buy here" link in the hope that Zacuto would send him a unit which apparently never happened as I didn't find a "hands-on" article.

To be fair, Andrew didn't provide any evidence either because he doesn't have the camera yet, he probably is right but his reaction seems more based on a frustration that Panasonic didn't send him a unit, the same as with the Gratical Eye Yoclay mentioned, also there he forms an opinion based on specification only and telling us how great this unit would be with a gh4 or a7s while "forgetting" and not even mentioning it has a sdi output only, even ignoring it when Yoclay mentions it. This also looked to me like a sugarcoated article with a "buy here" link in the hope that Zacuto would send him a unit which apparently never happened as I didn't find a "hands-on" article.

I like Johnnie Behiri's mini-docs a lot when he tests new camera's and I wish more sites that do reviews would follow his example instead of only talk about a camera, pixelpeep and use blown up framegrabs. Ideally it should be a combination of both, a detailed test like Gordon Laing at cameralabs does but geared towards videofunctionality only and then add a nicely shot short documentary. Until that happens our only choice is to look at as many reviews and uservideos, try to filter out the crap and try to make a informed decision before buying to eventually find out the camera has flaws that have not been mentioned by anyone so far.  

I am a weddingshooter and mainly use panasonic camera's, unless your intention is to switch to Sony completely then the GH5 is a overall better videocamera for weddings, Ivanhurba mentioned the most important differences in favor of the GH5 and if you get the DMW-XLR1 you have a workhorse that will get almost any job done. I also never had any issues when it comes to low light with my gh4 or with my gx80 and g80 which are cleaner at high iso and retain color better as well, the advantage of shooting with m4/3 is that you can shoot wide open all the time if needed with fast lenses, like f1.4 and still have a manageable dof and focus which is more difficult with APS-C and very difficult with full frame, considering that would be your next step after getting a a6500. 

Probably at the same time when pigs can fly, you just need to be patient. Why not focus on what is available today, hoping for things that might never happen will only frustrate you. If I understand you right, you have a 1DX mk II, XC-15 and C300 Mk II? Why would you even consider getting a GH5?

It was a paid upgrade before so it's nothing new, sony charges 500dollar for a 4K upgrade on their x70. Panasonic has always released their camera's at a very competitive pricepoint and cheaper then the competition so even with the VLOG upgrade it's still very good value for money, also, not everyone needs or wants VLOG and for those who do it's 100 dollar which is peanuts.

If they managed to get even close to what Canon, Sony or even Fujifilm have achieved when it comes to continuous autofocus they would have shown us because that would have been a big deal, I expect some minor improvements but nothing worth talking about, time will tell.

It's not that my g80 is too soft on it's own, it's too soft compared to my other panasonic camera's and the difference was noticeable if I shot side by side, since the intention is that I use my 3 panasonic camera's on a shoot I either have to dial the sharpness down on my other camera's and turn the sharpness up on my g80 in order to make them match. I have to see first how noticeable it is in real life shooting instead of pixel peeping that I"m doing now.

If they managed to get even close to what Canon, Sony or even Fujifilm have achieved when it comes to continuous autofocus they would have shown us because that would have been a big deal, I expect some minor improvements but nothing worth talking about, time will tell.

If they managed to get even close to what Canon, Sony or even Fujifilm have achieved when it comes to continuous autofocus they would have shown us because that would have been a big deal, I expect some minor improvements but nothing worth talking about, time will tell.

If you look at the camera from a photography point of view I would agree with you but when it comes to video and especially when you use the camera during events that require quick action, like weddings then I"d agree with Viet on most of his points. 
Eventhough filming rules state that as a rule of thumb, the shutter speed to be double the number of frames per second there are many event videographers that use the shutter to compensate for quickly changing light conditions, you might say, use a ND but if you have to move between in- and outdoors quickly a ND can be a pain. Having a dial on camera that you can easily turn with your thumb or index finger without changing the position of your hand is a big advantage.
I also prefer a aperture ring on the lens but only if it's a declicked one but again here I can imagine that a dial on camera might make it easier to change on the fly without introducing shake in your shot, personally I set the aperture and don't touch it anymore during a shot, even if light intensity changes, you choose a aperture depending on the dof that you plan to achieve, change the aperture during a shot and the dof changes, something I never want.
A missing physical record button, if that would be the case, is a big issue, fine if you have all the time but again for event shooters not being able to change between video/photo mode quickly or not being able to hit record instantly without having to dive in a menu system would make a camera useless.