BTM_Pix

Just signed in to say a big thank you to BTM_Pix for you efforts in realising this very snuckily sweet upgrade, squeezing a little extra love out of the Lumix mini-beasty  Great job, and many successes on your hardware implementation. Kudos to you and this community.

Well, it isn't quite what I was looking for. I don't think either of you are the target audience. I wonder if anyone really is? It feels consumer-oriented.
I've only tried the lens indoors with poor light so maybe it gets better outside. But it seems to flicker exactly like in the videos above (less than some lenses, more than you want) unless you zoom in wide open, in which case the aperture racks just over a stop between 18mm and 135mm.
It doesn't seem like that much, though. This is pretty acceptable.
At a consistent f5.6, it flickers noticeably but subtly. Both On my SL1 and C100.
Even in auto ISO. I think? Auto ISO pulses for some reason or another. And the C100 doesn't have it.
Even if the flicker weren't a problem, the ramp acceleration takes a long time to begin and is difficult to control in both fast and slow speeds. Inadequate to follow action or fast-moving events. It's not all the smooth either. The rocker feels great but doesn't seem analogue but instead very granular. The rocker might have a total of five steps on it. It might have just three (zoom in, don't zoom, zoom out). Slow zoom looks cool, though.
Programming a zoom into a wireless FF seems the better option. By far.
For the 80D crowd it's nice, though. Great balance, good ergonomics. Weird rocker placement makes sense for C series and dSLRs given the grip placement. Image quality seems okay. Great zoom range and light weight. And despite the adapter's flaws, it approximates the job closely enough to be functional and fun to use. Non-picky consumers will like it. Creative people willing to fix problems in post or who need to shoot a fake newscast or something will have fun with it. I might sell my hvx still! But this thing is a lot of $$$ for a toy/consumer-grade (not that controllable so not professional-level, but intuitive and workable enough to be fun, at least, so not garbage) product.
To me it just seems like an immature consumer product. Not particularly good at anything. But not an embarrassment, either, and a cute novelty. But... not very good.  
What's really crazy... REALLY crazy is that it seems the contacts are only for power and they don't do anything to zoom or focus. They're also exposed all the time unless you attach the adapter and ate kind of unsightly. Strange for such a ubiquitous kit lens to behave that way... The zoom mechanism actually seems to be similar to a wireless FF where a lens gear on a motor catches the gear on the mechanical helical zoom/focus mechanism. It's not internally controlled at all, it's controlled by a gear in the zoom mechanism. The finely notched grip on the zoom ring on the lens catches a fine gear in the PZ-E1, and so that physical might account for the slow acceleration and slightly inconsistent zoom speed and feel. Really weird!
So it's not very good. But it sits well on the C100 in terms of size and feel. And if you need that slow Kubrick zoom for the absolute bare bones price, this will be able to communicate that intent. Horribly awkwardly and inartistically and not even consistently, sure, but it does function. That might sound like a dismissal, and I think for most people who want a real zoom rocker a camcorder is the better choice, but it's why I'm keeping it despite not recommending it to anyone.

For anyone looking for a cheap 4K travel camera with a 30x zoom (!) that can have cinelike d then I can confirm that it can indeed be done for the Panasonic TZ80 
And if you are travelling through Stansted airport then if you go to the Dixons tax free shop then ask to buy the demo one as I've just been there and left it already enabled on C3 for you
 

I reckon NASA have bought them all to fake another landing somewhere

For anyone looking for a cheap 4K travel camera with a 30x zoom (!) that can have cinelike d then I can confirm that it can indeed be done for the Panasonic TZ80 
And if you are travelling through Stansted airport then if you go to the Dixons tax free shop then ask to buy the demo one as I've just been there and left it already enabled on C3 for you
 

For anyone looking for a cheap 4K travel camera with a 30x zoom (!) that can have cinelike d then I can confirm that it can indeed be done for the Panasonic TZ80 
And if you are travelling through Stansted airport then if you go to the Dixons tax free shop then ask to buy the demo one as I've just been there and left it already enabled on C3 for you
 

Mmmmm....yes and no.
It takes the command and protects highlights for sure. But it does this by shifting everything a bit to the left of Karl Marx.
I need to look at it again to see if its salvageable with the prodding device but haven't got round to it yet.
Yes but if it is shit then at least it can now be shit but with a much flatter profile

For anyone looking for a cheap 4K travel camera with a 30x zoom (!) that can have cinelike d then I can confirm that it can indeed be done for the Panasonic TZ80 
And if you are travelling through Stansted airport then if you go to the Dixons tax free shop then ask to buy the demo one as I've just been there and left it already enabled on C3 for you
 

I had the Mark V and the a6500. And let me tell you, I loved and hated both of those cameras.
The RX100 V is so damn cool for a pocket camera but I got an overheat warning, then shut down 30 seconds into shooting slow motion in the middle of winter. I had the screen away from the body and every little trick I found online about precautions. I got the warning while setting up the menu without ever shooting a second of video. So it's basically useless.
But I liked the sLog and Cine2 image so much I decided the a6500 and its bigger body would at least make it usable... it is " better" and man that is some of the nicest looking 4K I have ever used.
sLog3 almost reminded me of Raw video with its detail. I live in the middle of the woods, so the way cameras pick up the details on tree bark and leaves is very important to me and sLog3 looked damn close to Raw. And sgamut 3 cinema or whatever it's called is beautiful. The camera is well built and the 5-axis was a joy to use with my vintage Minolta lenses. But again... in 35 degree Fahrenheit weather, I got the overheating warning. It never shut off, but that was just too much for me for a $1300 camera. So I returned it.
Here's a small test video I did with it and sLog3 and cine gamut3. I can only imagine what you pros could do with it, if the overheating can be worked around...
When the camera gets down to the $800 range or less, I may pick up another one. 
And here's a screengrab with lowlight in SLog2...
 

You might want to look at these other threads about work I'm doing on colour profiles.
Main description of it is first 
And then some information about testing outcomes from it
The controller will allow multiple versions of these custom created sets to be sent to the camera. 

More of a vent than anything and I know Panasonic are just as bad but....
All I wanted was a little travel camera.....
I thought to myself "I quite fancy an RX100 IV. Genuinely pocketable, vloggable, a bit of slo-mo (which I don't really have), slog2 so it can be pushed a bit more.....and I can have a play about to see if I can get my hardware controller to be Sony compatible too"
Easy.
And then I started the, "Mmmm....the mark V though, better IS, touch screen"
"Yeah but its so much dearer"
"We're into A6300 territory there"
"But then if we're going there, why not go a bit further and get the A6500"
"No lenses though"
"Yes but we've got a few Canon ones and they can be mounted cheaply. And with AF too"
"Stop it now, its getting really expensive and way out of what we wanted"
"OK, RX100 IV then"
"Mind you, the RX10 III does all of that and more and has a 600mm equivalent lens"
"Yes but now we're back in A6500 price range"
"OK, how about the RX10 II, its way cheaper and has NDs"
"Great idea. Not pocketable though"
"OK, RX100 IV then"
"You'll regret not getting the V though"
"Shut up, its too much to be paying for a tiny sensor as it is"
I've been like this cat for about a week now. 

This particular thread started as cinelike d for the GX80 as per the title so, yes, obviously there is no benefit to G80 owners in that regard.
The longer term benefits to the overall project for G80 owners will be found in the hardware controller to enable the camera functionality to be operated wirelessly from a physical unit rather than menu diving.
The different file formats are what other contributors have put up to enable testing to see if they work so you shouldnt have any expectation of those and I think that is documented in the responses by those who have tested it.
With regard to ISO, I didn't do the one with multiple variants and don't have a G80 but I suspect if you put it into an auto mode where the camera chooses its own ISO then this will take care of it.
If it doesnt, then put this into a browser while connected to the camera and it will revert to 6400 and take it from there.
http://192.168.54.1/cam.cgi?mode=setsetting&type=iso&value=6400
Hope that helps
The hardware controller, incidentally, enables the higher ISOs to be used in video mode if like the GX80 it is clamped at 6400.
The Hue command should also work if its not an already editable parameter in the G80. There is some usage guidance further up the thread for operating it from a browser but again its something that will be more readily and usefully controlled from the hardware controller.
 
I don't have one but maybe someone who does could chime in if they've tested it.
The G6 was a fail so I'm not sure where the GX7 sits in the chronology relative to that so wouldn't like to guess.

i have the panasonic G80 and today i have tested  some of the files are available and i will like to thank you for your effort , but,
 i would like to understand some things  better .
At my case (panasonic g80) which are the benefits ? e.g.  i already have cinelike d & v . 
i came up to some troubles .....i used the extended iso at 80 iso but i could not recover it to the mainstream choices 
Also there are choices like 200mbps that there are not available , although , they exist at the files and create confusion about availability .
could someone  categorize these  files at panasonic GX..  and panasonic G..   and also remove things that they don't work at the moment ?
thanks !
 

I signed in just to thank BTM_Pix and everyone else who have worked on this project.
I do not own a GX80 (yet) but I believe that everyone should encourage people who spend their time to our benefit...
P.S: By the way is there any chance for Cinelike to work on my GX7?
Thank you!

There is something in the overly reduced contrast levels and noise interaction.
I'm definitely going to create an automated test routine to produce an evaluation video file with different permutations.
The snag is that at 2 seconds per permutation, even eliminating unreasonable combinations, it will still clock in around the 3 hour mark.
We might need to watch it in shifts.
Although we could probably have a decent crack at the Tate Modern putting it on as an exhibit.

So I've been playing with my new prodding device and....
Its interesting.
What I did was record a clip of a colour chart from lets call it a well known brand of camera that is named after a primary colour and then put the same lens that was on that camera on to a GX85 and shot it again.
Both clips were recorded onto a Ninja Inferno.
What I was doing though was monitoring the recorded clip of the posh camera on the Ninja Inferno with the scope overlay on and then switching to the input to look at the GX85 and using the prodder to manipulate the parameters live and try and replicate the signature of the recording of the posh camera. I then tweaked a few things in FCPX to match a  bit closer with the purpose of then taking those changes back to put them in the profile of the GX85 to match it better straight out of the camera.
One of these images is the film log setting from the posh camera and the other one is the GX85.
There are definitely challenges regarding noise with doing this on the cheaper camera so its obvious which is which but I've got some ideas about that.
Tweaking the values and getting instant feedback was very productive and I think this may be the start of an interesting journey.

Doing the same thing with 400% crops from my test earlier day (which was daylight obviously) you do see differing things going on in the blue channel. Not just the overall level (which you can see is higher and in a different range as are the other colours which are more bunched in the mid area) but you can see it gets rolled off at the top.
So there are differences but its certainly looking like the studio lights shift it a lot more noticeably.
Natural profile on top, Cinelike D below it.
 

Its very early days yet and I've got a ton of work to do on it but it is definitely showing promise.
All the stuff is in there its just that being able to manipulate it in real time to see it makes a big difference imo 

I know I droned on about it regard the Sony A9 but its a classic example of what he's talking about.
They just don't have the lenses for the task they're trying to push it at so it could do a gazillion frames a second at a trillion ISO and they're still going to get the reaction of "That's nice...now where is your 400 f2.8 then?". Same for Fuji as well, even though I enthuse about it. I mean, I am actually using them for pro sport work but only within certain limits and I've still got to be hawking a 400 f2.8 with a Nikon on the end of it around with me.
Funny thing, actually, is that I was shooting what could be described as quite a big football match a couple of weeks ago (TV audience of 350 million people) and thought for sure that someone amongst us would have been shooting with the A9 as Sony would've handed a few out to get it into this particular game but there wasn't a single one. In fact, out of the 140ish of us covering it, the only one not exclusively Nikon or Canon for the game was me! A few people use mirrorless cameras for build up pictures and shots of the crowd and so on but not for the actual match because there just isn't the lenses.
During the warm up session, I handed the X-T2 with the 50-140 f2.8 on it to one of my old mates who was shooting the game as well for him to have a go.
"Fucking hell...this is actually a contender isn't it?" he said and then enthused for a few minutes about how fast it was and the image quality.
And then......
"Where's the 400 f2.8?"
Oh.

More of a vent than anything and I know Panasonic are just as bad but....
All I wanted was a little travel camera.....
I thought to myself "I quite fancy an RX100 IV. Genuinely pocketable, vloggable, a bit of slo-mo (which I don't really have), slog2 so it can be pushed a bit more.....and I can have a play about to see if I can get my hardware controller to be Sony compatible too"
Easy.
And then I started the, "Mmmm....the mark V though, better IS, touch screen"
"Yeah but its so much dearer"
"We're into A6300 territory there"
"But then if we're going there, why not go a bit further and get the A6500"
"No lenses though"
"Yes but we've got a few Canon ones and they can be mounted cheaply. And with AF too"
"Stop it now, its getting really expensive and way out of what we wanted"
"OK, RX100 IV then"
"Mind you, the RX10 III does all of that and more and has a 600mm equivalent lens"
"Yes but now we're back in A6500 price range"
"OK, how about the RX10 II, its way cheaper and has NDs"
"Great idea. Not pocketable though"
"OK, RX100 IV then"
"You'll regret not getting the V though"
"Shut up, its too much to be paying for a tiny sensor as it is"
I've been like this cat for about a week now. 

Patience, patience
All will be revealed when its finished.
The hardware module part of my system  does the WiFi part and I can interface to that with USB, wireless (as in the controller from the video) and Bluetooth.
As I said in the other thread, I'm collecting a few different controllers (in about an hour actually) and at least one of them will be suitable for what you want. Bear in mind as I said at the start of this thread that the reason that the cinelike d happened was as a byproduct of me researching to make a hardware controller. And specifically one for a gimbal so its all in hand
 

Clearly, attaching this would be the foolproof automated solution to this issue.
If there is enough sunlight to heat the camera then it will also be enough to cool it
 

I think iPhondo moved up to an a6500 recently but prior to that was doing all his videos with the rx100 iv I think. He had a system of little fans he would stick on the back. 
Also the speed of the continuous photo option is TWENTY FOUR x 20MB raw+jpegs per second with continuous AF >.<

Instructions unclear, I got my dog stuck in a toaster
best comment on that video 

I was on the verge of something similar but then @Orangenz sent me an hfr clip of him popping water balloons on his RX100 V and it was all over.
I was simply powerless to resist after that.