Arikhan

@mercer
I know, you are right. The problem is, this is a déjà vu. Nokia was the same arrogant company, being cocksure of itself - and 10 years later they are dead. And their death is hard-earned. Primarly beaten by a company, formerly known as computer and laptop manufacturer...Would you have thought this 10 years ago? For sure, not...
The Canon ultras are not far away from this. The way from Hero to Zero could be a very fast one nowadays - not for Canon as a global company with many divisions, but for their camera business....

It's not all about 4K @Andrew Reid. The sad aspect is, Canon doesn't even want buyers to get an acceptable/clean 1080p in 2017. Instead of this, the mushy 720p again and again.
The 5d m4 is the most overrated AND overprized Canon - even the 1DX II might be expensive, but it''s not overprized. The 6D is - from photographic point of view - a real bargain, even nowadays. I think, this will be similar to the 6D II, it will turn out as a great photographic offer at FF level.
I (my whole family) leaved Canon last year, selling dozens of lenses and cameras, keeping only 12 Canon lenses. I've separated photography from film/video, now heavily buying in the Nikon ecosystem for photography. Never looked back, Canon became for me completely irrelevant at the moment (for stills). In film/video cameras, I will consider their offers for sure (C200).
I know, Canon is (for volume) the #1 camera manufacturer in the world and it will consistently rank quite well, even if people like me jump on the Nikon ship. My gear is probably next to nothing in Canons arrogant eyes, but at the end of the day, it will be about 30.000 till end of this year. Plus the fact, we always serviced our gear very regurarly and invested a nice amount of money at this level. Now it's NPS making the business.
I loved their ergonomics, built quality, reliability and service. Nearly perfect - not the Sony E-Mount plastic garbage (excepting A9). BUT...dealing with a ultraconservative brigade with a post WW 2 attitude, is not funny or inspiring. And I didn't even ask for 4K, but only for a contemporary, clean 1080p...It's a shame, but hey, that's life...

@SMGJohn
Full ACK...The sovjet directors were artists, completely focusing the core assets of their films to make. No lunatic pixel whores and gear heads out there...The sovjet film is all about content and expression and not about pampered "gadgetized" guys. The sovjet cameras were NOT half-baked, unfinished plastic garbage like contemporary Sony Axyz, they were made to hold up. Not filigree but rugged, to be beaten up some years (or even decades) to death. A kind of "filming russian tanks". Poverty and deficits are sometimes a real catalyst for putting ideas into art. Luxury plastic gadgets destroy fantasy and lead to consumism and GAS...
And never forget: At the great era of sovjet film, there were only a few famous and respected sovjet directors - even internationally. Nowadays every guy can call himself a director, but - despite social media and nowadays possibilities and low gear pricing - there are NO MORE famous & respected DOPs, compared to 30 years ago...

Shot on the GH5 in 3 days. A concept trailer done having a zero budget for our upcoming first feature film.
I really like what I can squeeze out of the internal 10 bit V-Log footage. DR, lowlight and colors are really good.
Everything was shot with sharpening and nr set to -5 and a Tiffen Black Pro Mist filter applied in front of the lens (12-35mm 2.8 V1, 20mm 1.7, 42.5mm 1.7) to make it smoother. Colorgrading done in Davinci Resolve. Drone shots by the DJI Mavic (the internal sharpening is hideous tbh...).
 

@Kisaha
The main attraction in this video is the beautiful girl singing...Not gardens and flowers...
What i mean with my post above, is that real content ( and not test footage ) will ALWAYS get more audience than "made for pixel criticism" videos. And that's the main point: whereever you are an artist without any financial interest, or an pro who makes a living out of his video work, nowadays you need an interested audience.
And as already said, there will always be a vast audience for beautiful and informative landscape and travel videos ("Patagonia 4k"). Same for music videos with such a beautiful singer as in your video...
Try to get 0,5 Million views for a video containing test footage from a XYZ camera - full of flowers, leafs, tree trunk, etc..No go...

@Arikhan I don't disagree, I just said something else. Anyways, click farms are still going large.
this is made by one of the production companies I work most, half a day shooting, couldn't even afford me for the day, a lot of gardens and flowers almost 27.000.000 views (which is amazing for Greece), so what?
 

man im a hot mess tonight i meant red helium. you KNOW!! these names are amazing whats next
anyway, i challenge you to watch the video below on a 1080p screen in 4k or above res on youtube and tell me that youre used to seeing 1080 video with such clarity
sorry about multiple ZG like posts

@jonpais
Exactly THIS is a very critical point for many Pana consumer cams.. AWB can be (specially in warmish sunset scenarios) a kind of poison for skin tones. You have to properly set your WB manually and reset every time the lighting situation (color temperature) changes - even as little bit. You can't trust Pana AWB in some lighting situations at all, the skin tones go so bad, as you can throw away your footage. In my case (sunset scenario) it helped to substancially cool up color balance in "Standard" mode. For Cine D, Portrait, etc., consistency didn't work at all, WB remaining very critical (concerning skin tones), even after cooling up colors. 
You have just to give a proper WB a little bit of love. AWB is generally completely unreliable when filming people with Pana consumer cams. You mostly get a mixed bag...I can mostly trust Nikon AWB, but never Pana (when filming)...

@jonpais
In our nowadays (social bullshit driven) lunacy society, general experience, facts and pure common sense are no longer respected: "Monkey see, monkey do". Without any feeling for special circumstances (lighting, etc.) required in every single scene. The gearhead driven brigade likes "global solutions": One single profile shooting, then applying a quick lut on it, get ready...
Real deep education and self criticism are not the strongest skills of militant gearheads, driven by ignorance, inexperience and ugly, "LUT-centered" mentality. If "other guys" shoot in X-log, they do it too - Monkey see, monkey do. Even if it looks like shit. It's a kind of mass desaster, having nothing to do with artistic aspects. Unbalanced BS colors and violation of elementary visual principles have nothing to do with art. This is NOT an artistic choice, it's a result of an uneducated and unreflected, superficial crowd, just trying to copy & paste assumed success methods.
The bad thing is. It doesn't work, as long as you don't know what you do. Great visual masters don't have standard methods, settings or luts for shooting in different scenarios. They try to apply individualized methods to every single scene or circumstance.
BTW: I've tried this too. It didn't work for me - and THIS is good news...

@jonpais
In our nowadays (social bullshit driven) lunacy society, general experience, facts and pure common sense are no longer respected: "Monkey see, monkey do". Without any feeling for special circumstances (lighting, etc.) required in every single scene. The gearhead driven brigade likes "global solutions": One single profile shooting, then applying a quick lut on it, get ready...
Real deep education and self criticism are not the strongest skills of militant gearheads, driven by ignorance, inexperience and ugly, "LUT-centered" mentality. If "other guys" shoot in X-log, they do it too - Monkey see, monkey do. Even if it looks like shit. It's a kind of mass desaster, having nothing to do with artistic aspects. Unbalanced BS colors and violation of elementary visual principles have nothing to do with art. This is NOT an artistic choice, it's a result of an uneducated and unreflected, superficial crowd, just trying to copy & paste assumed success methods.
The bad thing is. It doesn't work, as long as you don't know what you do. Great visual masters don't have standard methods, settings or luts for shooting in different scenarios. They try to apply individualized methods to every single scene or circumstance.
BTW: I've tried this too. It didn't work for me - and THIS is good news...

@jonpais
In our nowadays (social bullshit driven) lunacy society, general experience, facts and pure common sense are no longer respected: "Monkey see, monkey do". Without any feeling for special circumstances (lighting, etc.) required in every single scene. The gearhead driven brigade likes "global solutions": One single profile shooting, then applying a quick lut on it, get ready...
Real deep education and self criticism are not the strongest skills of militant gearheads, driven by ignorance, inexperience and ugly, "LUT-centered" mentality. If "other guys" shoot in X-log, they do it too - Monkey see, monkey do. Even if it looks like shit. It's a kind of mass desaster, having nothing to do with artistic aspects. Unbalanced BS colors and violation of elementary visual principles have nothing to do with art. This is NOT an artistic choice, it's a result of an uneducated and unreflected, superficial crowd, just trying to copy & paste assumed success methods.
The bad thing is. It doesn't work, as long as you don't know what you do. Great visual masters don't have standard methods, settings or luts for shooting in different scenarios. They try to apply individualized methods to every single scene or circumstance.
BTW: I've tried this too. It didn't work for me - and THIS is good news...

@jonpais
In our nowadays (social bullshit driven) lunacy society, general experience, facts and pure common sense are no longer respected: "Monkey see, monkey do". Without any feeling for special circumstances (lighting, etc.) required in every single scene. The gearhead driven brigade likes "global solutions": One single profile shooting, then applying a quick lut on it, get ready...
Real deep education and self criticism are not the strongest skills of militant gearheads, driven by ignorance, inexperience and ugly, "LUT-centered" mentality. If "other guys" shoot in X-log, they do it too - Monkey see, monkey do. Even if it looks like shit. It's a kind of mass desaster, having nothing to do with artistic aspects. Unbalanced BS colors and violation of elementary visual principles have nothing to do with art. This is NOT an artistic choice, it's a result of an uneducated and unreflected, superficial crowd, just trying to copy & paste assumed success methods.
The bad thing is. It doesn't work, as long as you don't know what you do. Great visual masters don't have standard methods, settings or luts for shooting in different scenarios. They try to apply individualized methods to every single scene or circumstance.
BTW: I've tried this too. It didn't work for me - and THIS is good news...

@Andrew Reid
I appreciate your work and engagement for people shooting with DSLR and mirrorless toys. It was you giving me reasons to buy the NX1 over 1,5 years ago. At that time, I was 15 years old. It was your website and many people here always trying to help and sharing their experience and tips when using "toys".
Before buying the NX1, I shot with normal (smaller sensor) shoulder cameras only, mainly news and short narratives and documentaries (mostly politics and social). Shooting with S35 was a very new experience for me, as I am a practical minded, content driven guy with no or very little interest for fiction. Since then, I shot hundreds of hours of footage with the NX1...Even the German RTL broadcast television buyed some of my NX1 footage and broadcasted 15 seconds in their main newscast (every evening at 18:45 CET)...
Here it is (footage used by RTL), is a image based documentation of a professional nightly  blasting of some old cement towers in Germany. Curiously (and given the quite bad low light capabilities of the NX1 in low contrast lighting situations) that was a night video out of the NX1 they bought in this case. Footage in this YT video of my channel is a combination of NX1 and FZ1000...Daylight sequences are FZ1000 ONLY....Run & Gun, no "artistic" work...
Here is a video, completely shot with the NX1 - a small visualization of a German beach club:
Please consider, I am a "capture the moment" shooter and these videos are over an year old and I gained meanwhile very much experience with a whole bunch of cameras. My personal requirement is capturing decessive moments (interviews, violence, different situations, etc.) and trying to deliver beautiful IQ, good audio, etc. - but the content (information) is my highest requirement.
YOU and many people in this forum were a great help for me and the NX1 was at that time a kind of "springboard", inspiration and motivation for my filmic work. Meanwhile I use the NX1 together with my mom's A6500 many for portable street filmography, long exposure and architectural footage. For more challenging and ambitious work I use S35 or FF pro cameras with very good DR and low light capabilities and serious manufacturer and reseller support & service...
And still...During the past year I sold a bunch of footage to different news agencies, mostly out of the NX1 (footage from Italy, Romania, etc.)...Considering my age and the fact that I visit a gymnasium (so filming & photographing are a kind of spare time hobby, even when selling photos or footage) and the fact that the NX1 is still considered by many "pros" as a "nice toy", this is not bad at all...
You are one of the decissive "NX1 filming pioneers", encouraging people to use it. Thank you again for your great contribution to the "toy filmers" community! 
DISCLAIMER: Please consider, this is old footage. There are light years of difference to my today's work and personal requirements. Meanwhile I completely stopped generally documenting political day-to-day routine or local events & facilities...

@Kisaha
Yep. That's the most important for a pro: making a living out of it. As long as ANY camera - even 10 years old - satisfies you and your clients and makes money for you, why sell it and buy a new one? Buying every year a new camera is for a vast majority of people no necessity, it's simply an expensive obsession driven by bored YT fanboyism and manufacturer speach. There are some people on internet, maundering about the "upcoming 8K" as the absolute new standard beeing the only "future proof" fornat...If you are done with the NX1, use it ill it breaks.
The value of this camera for you as pro is NOT it's resale value. It's the money (and personal satisfaction) you can make with it, while other lunatics spend every cent in the pocket for new gear. At the end of the day, it's you wanting to make a living out of it and not manufacturers and resellers...

@Kisaha
Yep. That's the most important for a pro: making a living out of it. As long as ANY camera - even 10 years old - satisfies you and your clients and makes money for you, why sell it and buy a new one? Buying every year a new camera is for a vast majority of people no necessity, it's simply an expensive obsession driven by bored YT fanboyism and manufacturer speach. There are some people on internet, maundering about the "upcoming 8K" as the absolute new standard beeing the only "future proof" fornat...If you are done with the NX1, use it ill it breaks.
The value of this camera for you as pro is NOT it's resale value. It's the money (and personal satisfaction) you can make with it, while other lunatics spend every cent in the pocket for new gear. At the end of the day, it's you wanting to make a living out of it and not manufacturers and resellers...

@Kisaha
Yep. That's the most important for a pro: making a living out of it. As long as ANY camera - even 10 years old - satisfies you and your clients and makes money for you, why sell it and buy a new one? Buying every year a new camera is for a vast majority of people no necessity, it's simply an expensive obsession driven by bored YT fanboyism and manufacturer speach. There are some people on internet, maundering about the "upcoming 8K" as the absolute new standard beeing the only "future proof" fornat...If you are done with the NX1, use it ill it breaks.
The value of this camera for you as pro is NOT it's resale value. It's the money (and personal satisfaction) you can make with it, while other lunatics spend every cent in the pocket for new gear. At the end of the day, it's you wanting to make a living out of it and not manufacturers and resellers...

@Kisaha
Yep. That's the most important for a pro: making a living out of it. As long as ANY camera - even 10 years old - satisfies you and your clients and makes money for you, why sell it and buy a new one? Buying every year a new camera is for a vast majority of people no necessity, it's simply an expensive obsession driven by bored YT fanboyism and manufacturer speach. There are some people on internet, maundering about the "upcoming 8K" as the absolute new standard beeing the only "future proof" fornat...If you are done with the NX1, use it ill it breaks.
The value of this camera for you as pro is NOT it's resale value. It's the money (and personal satisfaction) you can make with it, while other lunatics spend every cent in the pocket for new gear. At the end of the day, it's you wanting to make a living out of it and not manufacturers and resellers...

Exactly, the value is so little, that it is not worth to buy anything else right now, while I have a 3 camera setup able to video most things, and take pictures of most things.
The C200 is on my radar for sure, but until I have a similar setup in Canon M (a professional M camera, and a smaller 4K everyday camera at least), then I am keeping NX. The cameras are making their money, and then some, so no reason to rush and get something inferior that I will change next year. There is no way 3 cameras and 8 lenses loosing 80% of their value in one year.
I am looking forward to move everything Canon, until then NX check most of my boxes while others do not.

The sleeping giant apparently woke up...And yes, it's pricey but a bargain for any documentary and idie filmer. No more fiddling around plasticky looking footage, ideal for editing quick shots without artistic ambitions, NDs, top Canon support, C-Log and more PP options, etc. 8.000-9.000 Euro in Europe? So what? Before buying 4-5 "plastic toys" and a bunch of accessories, this one is a portable solution in professional quality (IQ, built quality, service, etc.) and - at the end of the day - by far more affordable than a bag full of toys, costing all together more than a "real" camera...And a "bomb" for journalistic shooters...
Good news for filmmakers!

@Kisaha
Full ACK! Though, when talking Canon vs Sony, please consider the service factor...Canon is known for a (mostly) perfect service - Sony is far away from this. And a reliable service is crucial for pros...It will be very hard for any camera manufacturer to reach the service quality (repair, etc.) and area coverage of Canon...
And from consumer POV, Canon is PHOTOGRAPHY & IMAGING. Their brand is very, very strong. It will be very hard for Sony to get their brand associated with photography and general imaging in buyers mind (film)...Never underestimate the power of an established and powerful brand like Canon, even if ultraconservative and hostile to innovation in their product releases. Technology and innovation are only 2 aspects of the story...We should always also consider built quality, ergonomics, usabilty, etc. And from this point of view, Sony should learn very fast for getting a serious competitior for Canon products.
On the other side, Sony is from technology point of view a fantastic catalyst for the digital imaging market, so Canon should feel forced to more and faster innovation within their product lines...I hope, great times for digital imaging enthusiasts....

@Henry Silvestriz
Well, it's a hard decision because discontinued...but still outstanding - not only as video device (in good light - and when using non-Samsung lenses - it outranges the 5d m3 mostly when talking photo IQ)
 

When keeping it at low ISOs, you will get outstanding results and very beautiful (natural/realistic) colors...In daylight, it has a fantastic DR (photo only, please consider - film DR is worse than most current cameras)...
It's a pity, that it can't do wireless TTL/HSS - I would have liked to work with more strobes for sophisticated "lighting concerts" with it... (Image is OOC-JPEG, without any correction - only cropped down to 1.000px horizontal)

@Henry Silvestriz
Well, it's a hard decision because discontinued...but still outstanding - not only as video device (in good light - and when using non-Samsung lenses - it outranges the 5d m3 mostly when talking photo IQ)
 

When keeping it at low ISOs, you will get outstanding results and very beautiful (natural/realistic) colors...In daylight, it has a fantastic DR (photo only, please consider - film DR is worse than most current cameras)...
It's a pity, that it can't do wireless TTL/HSS - I would have liked to work with more strobes for sophisticated "lighting concerts" with it... (Image is OOC-JPEG, without any correction - only cropped down to 1.000px horizontal)

@Inazuma
Thank you for your work! Respectable results for the older cameras, keeping good up with the new X-T2...
I love this camera and shot about 25.000 photos with it...But low light and low contrast (tungsten) are simply a desaster - not in stills only...

@Inazuma
Thank you for your work! Respectable results for the older cameras, keeping good up with the new X-T2...
I love this camera and shot about 25.000 photos with it...But low light and low contrast (tungsten) are simply a desaster - not in stills only...

@jpfilmz
I took a look on my 4K TV - about 4m far away from TV (my usual distance when watching TV). The footage looks generally very nice...BUT:
That wasn't that important when watching "Unmasked", because I simply forgot to pay much attention to IQ...A very good and engaging story, top notch audio and (mostly) a very pleasant lighting (beginning in the darkness is really amazing) . WOW...really nice work: Don't dream your life, live your dream...
After watching for the third time, pixelpeepers and "uber-perfectionists" could find for sure some points to criticize...But hey, artistic and good conceptual work (like in your film) is nothing for know-it-alls...It's simply a great story, letting me forget the technical aspects...Just my two cents...
EDIT: ...and a top main actor perfectly matching the type of character/guy you wanted to portray in your story...