Davey

On 05/09/2016 at 10:46 PM, BucksterUK said:

wow I'm really confused now

I thought the "only" disadvantage of adding the further E-stabilizer on top of the 5 Axis - was the extra crop

and if the extra crop no issue then may as well have all stabilization on ?

certainly every since I've bought the camera - I've been using my 14-140 MKII with OIS + In body (so 5 axis) + E-Stabilizer as well ....

maybe incorrectly !

I've never been so confuddled in my entire life lol.

Spent eight hours tonight reading this thread and still have 45 pages to go. I have the GX80 plus 14-140ii and have worked out everything except the stabilisation.

I am hoping that by page 90 I will know the correct setting for best stability.

5 hours ago, Davey said:

Only found one review on YouTube and the bloke had to send it back for the same reason. It says on the box a6300 but a lot of third party manufacturers on Amazon and the like add a load of other allegedly compatible cameras to everything they sell. It is the same with battery chargers allegedly being compatible with a whole host of batteries when they are not, which I found out only this week when buying an Expro charger for Panasonic batteries listed in their compatibility list. 

These companies or sellers should be blacklisted if they do not change their false advertising.

I take back the Expro comment - works fine if you put the batteries in the right way up.

Yours

Homer Simpson

12 minutes ago, Ken Ross said:

Orangenz, no problem with the 14-140 lens. I took about 4 shots and each time it focused perfectly. Examples:

 

That's good to know - my 14-140ii finally came through the post a couple of hours ago

Only found one review on YouTube and the bloke had to send it back for the same reason. It says on the box a6300 but a lot of third party manufacturers on Amazon and the like add a load of other allegedly compatible cameras to everything they sell. It is the same with battery chargers allegedly being compatible with a whole host of batteries when they are not, which I found out only this week when buying an Expro charger for Panasonic batteries listed in their compatibility list. 

These companies or sellers should be blacklisted if they do not change their false advertising.

1 hour ago, Orangenz said:

Can some others try taking photos of the sky please? Never had problem trying to af on the sky before, all modes. 

I've struggled. But then I live under whispy chemtrails that don't have defining edges. That's with the Panasonic FZ200, incidentally.

7 hours ago, jonpais said:

At the launch, Panasonic representatives boasted about the new improved AF, and because it wasn't very reliable on the GH4, many were hoping for considerably better performance, though they already knew that CDAF was never going to compete with PDAF. So if so much attention has been focused on AF, I think part of the blame must fall on Panasonic's shoulders in the first place.

They did indeed. I would think that it was a reasonable expectation to assume they were speaking about the overall autofocusing capabilities of the GH5 and that that would include some of what we have seen to be complete failures.

Many people do not know what they are doing or why they are doing it when it comes to 'grading'. You can spot a professional colourist a mile away. 

Reviewers want to get right under the hood of whatever it is they are reviewing. The Panasonic focusing settings appear to be the most complex set of parameters outside of NASA high command, with different settings working with different lenses (according to PhotoJoseph) in different scenarios - and even then only working some of the time depending on whether or not Mercury has attained its greatest elongation from the Sun.

Ken, on the other hand, has quickly found out that there are no problems whatsoever when using 1-area. Everything else is irrelevant to him because he gets the shot he requires in focus every time using this simple method. This is the method that I use on my Panasonic cameras and also on my Sony cameras (when not manually focusing). I have enough problems with aliens and burnt palms to be worrying about focusing on a plant pot when I should be focusing on the bride.

For Ken, autofocus works great.

For Max, autofocus needs a lot of working out to get the best results.

For PhotoJoseph - he should consider himself lucky that he is still a Panasonic Luminary.

For Sony a6500 fanboys - they are too busy laughing.

And that's about it. Everything else is an overlapping of those four points above. Keeping those four points above separate will give us all more time to go out and use whatever cameras we own, and that being said, I am off out to buy some cheap offcuts from the butchers so that I can film a fox that comes to my garden in the small hours.

Ken Stone is a FCPX instructor. Not sure if has a GH5.

12 minutes ago, Ken Ross said:

Wait, Ken Stone?

Senior moment. No idea who Ken Stone is lol.

17 minutes ago, jonpais said:

Is it like an experimental film or something?

More a horror film when all said and done. 

18 minutes ago, Emanuel said:

 

The heavy breathing at 5:22 is something I am familiar with. Try this with an A7Sii and 70-200 f4 with people moving in front of the lens as they try to get a cheap shot off with their Boots disposables.

Had to do the single area / half press shutter manoeuvre and even then only got half the isle shot in focus. About the same as this bloke when all said and done.

I have colour temp mapped to C2 on my A7sii. 

2 minutes ago, jonpais said:

And the fellow who doesn't even know that the little Sony shoots 4k can't even spell Max's name correctly in his own video. He manages to cull a few seconds of successes from a grueling 15 hour day in inclement weather.

I can't bring myself to watch his version of events. I've seen and heard enough from him to last me a lifetime. Your report doesn't surprise me in the slightest.

Max's latest is out regarding GH5 autofocus. I thought that he was most gracious towards the incompetent Panasonic luminary, who was sweating like a man on his last night on death row throughout the entire charade.

The conclusion is 'Should have listened to Ken Stone'

16 minutes ago, noone said:

A7siii AF sucks.

A7siii battery life sucks.

A7siii touch screen sucks.

Have I missed anything? (just getting in early before the chorus starts).

Yes - everybody looks like the living dead. Easily corrected in-camera but watch out for the fifteen pages of people moaning about the red channel whilst ignoring that little slider thingy in their editing suite.

∆∆∆

'My 14-140mm 3.5-5.6 II works pretty good at AF in high contrast situations. It is stupid not to use a tool that woks pretty well in certain circumstances.'

That's good to hear. Waiting for mine to drop through the letterbox any time soon. 

6 minutes ago, Ken Ross said:

And how long have I preached the 1-area AF for the GH5? I've hit my head against the wall on the internet preaching this and showing that Max's tests were simply not giving the results I and others had gotten with 1-area. You can see in this guy's test that with the proper speed & sensitivity (and hey, he is absolutely correct that you might even get better results by turning the damn AF custom settings off) the results are essentially perfect.

I was thinking of you when I watched it this morning. It is pretty damned obvious that having 5 million focus points versus one single area is going to yield two types of results. For some reason, nobody is listening. He's do well to get one hundredth the views of somebody trying to focus underwater in the dark with the lens cap on.

He could film an episode using a scone and they would sell like hotcakes.

On 10/03/2017 at 0:03 PM, michalj said:

Hi!

I've shot this film fully with GX80 (GX85) + ProColor.
All shots handheld with 5axis stab on.

I thought I will share the video, it shows this LUT capabilities:

 

Footage during night with ProColor LUT without noise reduction in editing, mostly ISO800:  https://youtu.be/E5nYXPcDk_g?list=PLY1xsQ047Gnh2maspLJuKMIUcv0KF_3Tu

 

That's some first post. Please don't make it your last!

My GX80 arrives today, albeit minus a lens which isn't due for a few weeks. I'll be getting Pro Color for this.
 

Thick as a plank myself - which is why I only use i(diot)Macs. Never had a problem with either my 2011 or 2015 iMac but two Windows laptops before them lasted less than a year between them. Spent more time with silly security updates every five minutes than ever getting anything done. £800 down the drain.

I would only recommend non Macs to clever people.

10 hours ago, jonpais said:

You can't go wrong with either one.

Pulled the trigger an hour ago - GX80, 14-140mm, two spare batteries, two 64gb cards. Should (if my calculations are correct) cover me for 2 hours of 4K on any given day.

11 minutes ago, John Matthews said:

IMO go with the GX80 + lens option. My thinking is for 3 reasons:

1) the FZ330, FZ1000, FZ2000 don't have real 4k options for wide angles, something that's important with street protests.

2) the next time you buy a camera you'll be able to use the lens which means a cheaper ownership.

3) if your needs change, the GX80 will change with them and do low-light as well.

Hope that helps.

Cheers - makes perfect sense.

Been looking at the GX80/85 all night with a view to pairing it with the 14-140ii as a daytime run and gun all in one solution for street protests.

Originally, I was concentrating on one of the 4K bridge cameras such as the FZ1000 or FZ330 and possibly the FZ2000 but the stabilisation on the GX80/85 is something else. Then there's the option of adding lenses in the future and having a 4/3 system alongside my full frame gear.

Camera, lens, two spare batteries, two 64gb cards - £1150. Cheaper than the half loved, half derided FZ2000.

What say GX80/85 owners?

1 hour ago, dvcrn said:

Found this review just now 

He's raging pretty hard about the AF performance

What an absolute plum.