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CR is reporting it as confirmed. It'd be great to see this as a change in Canon's mindset. If they will do C-log in a non-Cinema camera they might start adding other features. I hope it's added for the 1dxII! - http://www.canonrumors.com/c-log-coming-to-eos-5d-mark-iv-confirmed-cr3/

On 3/8/2017 at 8:33 PM, Flameproof Moth said:

It doesn't just happen in the CLOG. I've noticed with mine that even on the neutral picture profile with matching settings the 1DC shifts in the green channel between 4K and HD. Super weird, I compared it with the 6D's HD with matching white balance settings and the HD on the 1DC doesn't match the 6D, however, the 6D does match the 1DC in 4K colour wise. 

Do you get this aswell or is it just my 1DC?? Hope not : /

 

Yep my 1DC in HD is more green than my 1dxII. The 1DXII colors are a little nicer IMO - this was same WB same time : 

4 hours ago, mistralnoir said:

Hi, I'm planning to use the Canon 1DX mark ii for shooting video, can someone please tell me how many mins of footage of 1080p@24fps and 1080p@60fps, ALL-I and IPB video would fit into a 128GB Cfast 2.0 card?

I can try to help. First, you don't need cfast card for anything other than recording 4k @60fps. - 1000x CF cards work fine for every other recording format.  

According to the attached time chart from the manual. 128GB card will give you 540 min at 1080P IPB 24fps and 186 min at All-I. 

On 1/6/2017 at 9:27 AM, mojo43 said:

Hi all, I shot this in Jordan a month or so ago with a Sony A7sii and a Zhiyun crane. I used two lenses, the Sony 28mm f2 and the Canon Fd 50mm f1.4. We also had permission from the Jordanian gov to use a Phantom 4 while we were there. Would love to answer any questions and if you would like to follow along on Fb and on youtube that would be great, thanks!

youtube.com/channel/UCw0J_iNkme1qf2Q1nucVxJA
facebook.com/joshuamorinfilm

Edit: it's showing up a bit weird. Here is the link: https://www.facebook.com/matadornetwork/videos/10154847045404394/

 

Nice work Joshua. What was your ISO on the moonlight shots? 

18 hours ago, jcs said:

For anything serious and short in length I use the 1DX II in 4K and downsample (lately only for 4K 60 paired with the C300 II as the primary camera).

In any case, the 1080p from both cameras is sharp/detailed enough for people/closeups/mid shots and the colors look great out of camera. People have been using diffusion/softening filters (e.g. Black Pro-Mist, nylon stockings) to take the edge off over-sharp cameras for a long time 

Looks nice and detailed. I think post sharpening is a must with Canon. 

This was done in FF 1080p mode, which is still beautiful looking. I think that the image is improved over the other canon full frame options out there, espically for 60fps. Colors are exactly what I want.   I'll try and share a 4k wedding as soon as we shoot one. But, Is not looking forward to storing that data. 

On 1/31/2017 at 4:01 AM, Arikhan said:

@DaveAltizer

Thank you for this interesting comparizon! I still have one question: What about the native 1080p (FullHD, not downscaled from 4K) of the 1 DC? Is the 1080p footage more detailed / sharp / crisp (not as soft and mushy) than the native 1080p of other Canon DSLRs (eg 5d m4, 1 DX m2, 80D, etc.)?

The S35 1080p mode is sharper than other canon DSLR. The full frame is about the same but still slightly better than 5D,6D etc. 

Thanks Dave! I've never shot with c100/c300 - are they really just 1.4x crop as compared to 1.3x with 1dc?

also, who's sharper now? 

4 hours ago, hmcindie said:

It's actually the other way around. Already sharpened images with contrast halos is harder to get soft than soft image (without sharpening artefacts) is to get sharp. If you zoom in 100% to a shot from a Red Epic / Arri Alexa, they have very little sharpening if at all. Compared to them a Sony A7r2 is sharpened to hell even with the lowest setting.

agreed. There is a difference between detail and sharpness. The sony has that larger radius, post sharpened look to it. 

2 hours ago, joema said:

In Premiere, the sharpen effect uses deconvolution, whereas the unsharp mask uses contrast edge enhancement.

are you aware of any sharpen plugins that behave like this for FCPX?

Sorry to bump this post but there was some discussion of the WFT-e8A on here. I had a huge lag when using it with the Camera Connect app and the Ronin-m. after a bit, I narrowed the problem down to the bluetooth connection inside of the Ronin. It always on and you can't disable it.

 The trick to fix it is to have your Ronin-M on and connected to the DJI Assistant app so that there is an active bluetooth connection, use the "viewer" mode so that its transmitting data to your phone. THEN setup your WFT-E8a network with the connection wizard. It will detect the interference and use a different channel. Drove me nuts! So I hope this helps someone else.

I knew I recognized one of the guys in MySon! Bloom visited this same village with the fs7 and a speedbooster 2 years earlier. If you want to compare images of the same folks with the 1DXII vs Fs7 just watch each these. Both make wonderful images.



FS7 : 

and 1dxII again : 

If anyone needs further convincing of the 1dxII - put on a diaper and watch this in 4K. 

https://vimeo.com/192756025

4 hours ago, Damphousse said:

 

It is really straight forward if you think about it.  If something is white under high noon sunlight then it should be yellow, orange, or red under the setting or rising sun. 

 

you're confused on what "white" really is. Your brain is continuously white balancing for the environment, that's why WB from the back of the screen is unreliable. Your LCD screen's white point is set to around 6500k. So if you're indoors in a room lit with 3200k bulbs your brain balances for that oevrall environment, but you have this little window of 6500k light coming from your camera. Everything will look cooler than it will when you get home. also, See my post above about WB for extreme color temps.

It's really all about how our brains work. From what I can tell, our brains balance for color temps 2500k up to 9000k - after that it seems to accept the color cast, which explains why twilight (14000kish) actually looks cool and candle light (1800k) looks warm. Same for sunsets. So If anything is in between those numbers I balance for neutral white and beyond that It makes sense to just go with it. 

Also sunsets actually have two light sources, the sky, which can be very cold, and the warm sun. So if someone is back lit by the sun thats not really your key light. I often shoot golden hour at 7500k to match the sky and let the sun be like a warm rim light. 

3 hours ago, Vesku said:

There are at least 3 ways to set WB.

-Full auto WB

-Choosing kelvin degree manually

-Using (exposing) gray card and saving a WB preset

Can I get the same result with manual kelvin degree than using auto WB or gray card? Does the camera AWB make additional adjustments for image color like green-red or blue-yellow adjustments so that it is impossible to get as good result by just setting manual kelvin degree. 

It is important to get right WB in video in the first place. It is also disturbing if the WB changes rapidly during a clip. A WB-lock would be nice if using AWB.

3

Custom white balance does (at least with Canon and Sony) adjust for green and magenta. Magic Lantern did a great job of showing you these adjustments with its custom WB feature. Sony shows them to you as well. Canon doesn't tell you a thing. After using this for a while, I'm surprised to see how often green needs to be removed because of indoor window tint or bounce grass.

5 hours ago, gt3rs said:

In Switzerland it was 370 usd at 1dx II launch... now is ca. 430 usd.... It is the European model E8B but I really have no idea why is cheaper here... because the 1dx II is 150 usd more expensive here than in the US.

Still too expensive for what it is because it is really just a wifi adapter with no logic because if you use the Ethernet port on the camera you have all the functionality available.

 

Just tested going out from ethernet to usb adapter and then USB to lighting adapter to get it into iphone. Doesn't work but i think its because of the Camera Connect app. I did it through a powered USB hub and the camera gave me an IP address to use but I have no idea what to do with that. 

I was thinking the other night, the 1DXII is unique right now. Nothing can do what it can at the moment : 1.3x sensor with Canon color, 4k with no overheating and autofocus (and that excludes the 4k 60fps and 120fps 1080p)
C300 II - crop sensor, large size
c100 II - 1080p
5div - 1.7x crop
1DC - no autofocus, no slow mo
A7sII - FF but sony colors, 4k overheating
a6300 - sony colors, 4k overheating
nx1 - crop, funny colors
gh4 - crop, autofocus 

Now there are lots of things to like about every one of those cameras. They are all fantastic really, but the 1DXII has an edge in several areas along with some downsides, but aside from the massive file sizes I'm happy with this thing. 
 

58 minutes ago, Ty Harper said:

Reading through the actual thread, I'm hard pressed to not believe it. There are several 1DC owners that report the same issue. I only saw one thread covering the issue over here. But I'm more interested in hearing from 1DX MK II users. 

 

This issue was a real problem for some 1DC owners. From what I understand, it was caused because there was no way to re-map pixels. It didn't apply to the 1DX and doesn't to the 1dxII either. I have no idea why it was exclusive to the 1DC other than it was a hot - rodded camera and had some design changes.

3 hours ago, gt3rs said:

canon wft-e8b (in ch was on sale for 370 usd)

 

Wait, where did this go on sale? I can't even find a used one!

On 12/10/2016 at 1:06 PM, gt3rs said:

As far as I have looked in to it the X5s it will not have continuous AF but someday they will get it and improve the latency with the tablet/phone and it will be a really compelling system. Also curious to see if the X5s is not doing line skipping at 60fpst because the P4p (basically a X4s) is doing line skipping at 60p so quite a bit of quality drop from 4k 30 than 60.

I'm really happy with the 1Dx II on the Ronin M, if you use the Face AF and the face of the subject is very visible it works very well, for 360 orbits I use continues AF and focus on keeping the AF square on the subject and most of the time I nail it.

If you are used to the Ronin M I really suggest to rent them both for 1 day and test it. You would need extension rods for the Ronin M but for a test you can simply unscrew the rods caps and gain a bit on the tilt axis.

Regarding CFast cards, many BMC users have brought eBay CFast Lexar 3400 discontinued model. I was a bit worried but I took the risk and ordered one 256 GB for 260 USD after some testing I brought a second one for 300 USD. Since end of May and many TB of video and photos never had a problem. But you need to judge the risk here, I read that somebody had a problem and sent it to Lexar and got replaced with a new 3600. It seems now that they want much more money on ebay...

 

In my opinion this is really where it shines 4k with a bit of slow motion with shallow DOF on a gimbal as a one man band.
As far as I know E-M1 II can't do 4k 60p but I have no experience with the AF so I can't comment.

Always waiting because something better will show up is a good money saving approach because at the end you will never buy anything. I'm sure that the Sony A7s IIIIII will do 8k 240fps with super AF, full frame but right now is 6 months that I'm using the 1Dx II....

Of course if you never shoot stills, never need 4k 60p and don't care for shallow DOF with camera in movement then the 1Dx II is a total waste of money.

Which Wft are you using?

I'm  trying to find a way to go LAN out straight into the phone to get rid of latency.

There are people that do it for internet connection with iPads. 

I do a fair amount of music demos and the 1DX II has been amazing on a gimbal. I LOVE the 4K, and the AF isnt just for shallow DOF movement. Big long pushes with deep DOF still benefit from the DPAF. But keep in mind that the sweet touchscreen isn't available on a gimbal, I'm currently testing ways to get it to work with my iphone.

This is a teaser for a Music video, so not synced up or anything :

54 minutes ago, SebRoss said:

If I could afford it - that would be my ultimate baby - and I would get an underwater case for it ... but for now I so happy about my a7s ... a tool that I was waiting for since nikon release the d700 

 

a7s is awesome and silly sharp. The 1DXII is kind of a rip off because you not only have to buy the expensive body but you have to invest a ton in storage. I spent $550 on CF cards just to shoot a short music video. But ooh that color and detail =)

I think it's about 8mp. File sizes are huge. 

I'm shocked at how nice some of these 1dxII frames are looking. I can finally tell which lenses are sharper than others.