Justin Bacle

Here is a quick comparison between the anamorphic lenses I have.
The goal is to compares the flares and sharpness.
Hypergonar Hi-Fi 2
Dyaliscope Champion
Singer/Sankor 16D (uncoated)
Elmoscope 1
Isco Ultra-Star
Schneider Cinelux.
All shots with :
BMMCC
Mitakon Lens Turbo II
Helios 44-2
Focused to infinity, using a +1 close up diopter (Hama) except for the cinelux which used the Rectilux Hardcore DNA
(Sorry for the misaligned Cinelux shot, didn't see it until edit.)
Shot in Raw 3:1, edited and graded in Resolve. Applied the same color correction to all the shots.
I chose this lens, so that every anamorphic adapter would not show vignetting.
Equivalent focal length is 58 (Helios 44-2) * 0.72 (Lens Turbo) * 2.88 (BMMCC) = 120mm (FF)
The flares from the Hypergonar and Dyaliscope are just epic. 
I really like the subtle flares of the Elmo I
The flares of the ultrastar and cinelux are very muted, as expected.
The Singer (Sankor) 16D shot is just to show what happens if you want to uncoat your lens  
What do you think ?  

Here is a quick comparison between the anamorphic lenses I have.
The goal is to compares the flares and sharpness.
Hypergonar Hi-Fi 2
Dyaliscope Champion
Singer/Sankor 16D (uncoated)
Elmoscope 1
Isco Ultra-Star
Schneider Cinelux.
All shots with :
BMMCC
Mitakon Lens Turbo II
Helios 44-2
Focused to infinity, using a +1 close up diopter (Hama) except for the cinelux which used the Rectilux Hardcore DNA
(Sorry for the misaligned Cinelux shot, didn't see it until edit.)
Shot in Raw 3:1, edited and graded in Resolve. Applied the same color correction to all the shots.
I chose this lens, so that every anamorphic adapter would not show vignetting.
Equivalent focal length is 58 (Helios 44-2) * 0.72 (Lens Turbo) * 2.88 (BMMCC) = 120mm (FF)
The flares from the Hypergonar and Dyaliscope are just epic. 
I really like the subtle flares of the Elmo I
The flares of the ultrastar and cinelux are very muted, as expected.
The Singer (Sankor) 16D shot is just to show what happens if you want to uncoat your lens  
What do you think ?  

Here is a quick comparison between the anamorphic lenses I have.
The goal is to compares the flares and sharpness.
Hypergonar Hi-Fi 2
Dyaliscope Champion
Singer/Sankor 16D (uncoated)
Elmoscope 1
Isco Ultra-Star
Schneider Cinelux.
All shots with :
BMMCC
Mitakon Lens Turbo II
Helios 44-2
Focused to infinity, using a +1 close up diopter (Hama) except for the cinelux which used the Rectilux Hardcore DNA
(Sorry for the misaligned Cinelux shot, didn't see it until edit.)
Shot in Raw 3:1, edited and graded in Resolve. Applied the same color correction to all the shots.
I chose this lens, so that every anamorphic adapter would not show vignetting.
Equivalent focal length is 58 (Helios 44-2) * 0.72 (Lens Turbo) * 2.88 (BMMCC) = 120mm (FF)
The flares from the Hypergonar and Dyaliscope are just epic. 
I really like the subtle flares of the Elmo I
The flares of the ultrastar and cinelux are very muted, as expected.
The Singer (Sankor) 16D shot is just to show what happens if you want to uncoat your lens  
What do you think ?  

I have an AF100 and like it a lot. It's my go to camera for events where I just need the most reliable camera with low recording media and battery needs. 
You basically plug a Mic, an SD card and two batteries and you're good for an entire day of shooting.
That said, the image can be great, but you have to be very careful with you exposure and white balance. The DR of this camera is around 10-11 stops, and the codec is weak. You can plug an Atomos samurai and get better recording codec though. But you won't get the possibility to do so much in post (you just get 4:2:2 All-I instead of 4:2:0 AVCHD). The image you get is a bit soft, but you can still add a good amount of sharpness in post without destroying the image.
I got mine 2 years ago for 1300€ including a 7-14mm and 14-140mm. I think it is still a great all in one solution for the price, even to this day.
Here is one of the videos I shot, in poor lighting conditions, for a night event with the AF100. I was using Minolta MD glass. 
 

I have an AF100 and like it a lot. It's my go to camera for events where I just need the most reliable camera with low recording media and battery needs. 
You basically plug a Mic, an SD card and two batteries and you're good for an entire day of shooting.
That said, the image can be great, but you have to be very careful with you exposure and white balance. The DR of this camera is around 10-11 stops, and the codec is weak. You can plug an Atomos samurai and get better recording codec though. But you won't get the possibility to do so much in post (you just get 4:2:2 All-I instead of 4:2:0 AVCHD). The image you get is a bit soft, but you can still add a good amount of sharpness in post without destroying the image.
I got mine 2 years ago for 1300€ including a 7-14mm and 14-140mm. I think it is still a great all in one solution for the price, even to this day.
Here is one of the videos I shot, in poor lighting conditions, for a night event with the AF100. I was using Minolta MD glass. 
 

You don't show it.

If I had to choose one, it would be the Minolta Rokkor MD 50mm f/1.4. Very compact, fast and sharp 50mm

Thats not what happened but you are correct that the D16 isn't made any more.
Will you be going around to all the threads mentioning the fs700, c100, gh4, etc and say the same thing?

I love the D16. I even bought it twice
 

Yep easy to trap.
"Please send to Ebrahim Saadawi, 1 scam street, fraudtown."

Someone is pretending to be me, trying to scam free products out of the DSLR video community.
Huge thanks for this company for being smart and sending me an email through this site, to check it was actually me!!
Previously also James Miller I think was a victim of this kind of thing as well, but the real victims are the small businesses who lose valuable goods to an imposter!
(This is a message to the person behind this ruse: It's completely fraudulent and we will get the police involved)

Haha yes when a business model is broken to the point of behaving like the Stasi then it is going to get shut down some way or another, and I'm glad the rumours sites won't be able to ping my Amazon purchases back at me, whilst selling it around stuff they cut and pasted from someone's YouTube channel.
None of those are advertising cookies though.
The reddit one is because there's a Reddit post embed function built into the forum software.
The Google ones are for fonts, visitor counters, some common scripts that speed up page loading and style sheets.
Viglink is an affiliate link enabler offered as part of IP.Board (the forum software) but it is disabled on the EOSHD forum as I didn't want it automatically underlining every camera name with a link to B&H.... Annoying, and penny wise, pound foolish bullcrap.

red stan's sage wisdom and advice on good and shit anamorphics.
1.small optics give you an easier life and nice close focus.
2.focus test your anamorphic as soon as you get it if you cannot get a sharp picture get a refund or a discount.
3.do not take any crap bull from a seller especially if he has sold you junk costing over 250 dollars.
4.if your lens has major damage it may be beyond economic repair meaning it could cost 2-5 times it's value for the repair.
5.with repairs expect a wait from 6 weeks to 3 months any good repair guy is always busy.
i had a nikon lens take 6 months for a complicated repair once.
6.explain to repair guy clearly what you think is wrong it saves time and money.
7.except the fact that some anamorphics are just not worth saving or repairing
8.many ebay anamorphic optics are the same optics being purchased fiddled with then sold on.
if in doubt walk away.
9.if your seller can take a foto of the lens and put a lengthy cut and past bull shit discription with a price tag of a 1000 dollars plus.
ask him why he has not bothered to shoot through the anamorphic is it because it is soft : )
10.at least 35% of anamorphics need servicing why do you think rental companies and studios had camera lens service depts.
11.main problems optic to optic alignment issue giving soft picture.
dried out focus helicoid grease.
dirty internal optics, fungus and external coating problems.
lens separation.
a lens clean and service should optimize the system allowing use of faster taking lens.
why get stuck in the 1950s hollywood rut of f8-16
12.remember repairing a car after a major crash is gonna cost a lot more time and money than a simple service.
13.quality shipping box within a box method is a must.
bad shipping with several impact drops along the journey will give you a bad lens.
14.i did not like ending on 13.

I did try it for fun several times, you can see example pictures here : 
Quite a weird out of focus blur but still interesting

I could not agree more. I think the shaky footage would actually be better than the shaky vignetting :D
Why don't you just crop so that you don't see the vignette ? Looks like you have the extra resolution. Just crop so that the vignette is not visible and export in 2K/FHD  
Also it seems that the stretch factor is a bit off. But maybe it's just me, not sure about this one.
The images are quite good, just hide that shaky vignette and you're good to go again  

There is a guy that sells Canon LP-E6 to Sony NPF adapters for use on the BMMCC. It'll solve the problem, but I find it quite bulky :s
http://www.starvingartist101.com/ 
 

I would have chosen B too actually (didn't see you already posted the results when I read the thread), but it doesn't really mean a damn thing as I am colorblind :D
I would suggest having all the pictures fit onto one screen. It's a bit difficult to choose when you have to scroll.
What is funny is that, all the cameras you put in the test are doing quite good. It's just a matter of personal tastes I guess. 
Thank you for this nice comparison

Consider renting.
 
A $7000 budget for a camera package sans lenses seems rather excessive for a short.  I've worked on shorts in which the budget for the entire project was a fraction of that of  your camera (sans lenses) package.
 
Plus, renting gives you more flexibility/recover-ability.  If you rent a camera that has a problem (such as fpn) or if you just don't like it, you can return it and get another camera.
 
Also, for a narrative short, you probably don't even need 4K, which could greatly reduce your budget.

Here are the results!
These where the cameras in the test.


The only one missing from the picture is the one that took the picture, the Fuji X-Pro2.


So without further ado here are the results from worst to best according to you and two other places. 
If I would have counted the three forums individually it would have been three separate lists. The Top-3 was different on all three.
(click on them twice for full resolution)
#6
In last place and with only 7.7% of the votes and therefor with the ugliest colors,

The Sigma DP3 Quattro

#5
Close contender for the bottom spot with 10.4% of the votes was the most expensive camera, 

The Fujifilm X-Pro2 (35mm f1.4 R)


#4
Only one vote away we find its little sister at 11.7%
The Fuji X70


#3
First to receiver a medal in third place and with 15.6% is the modern vintage Foveon marvel,
The Sigma DP1 (I still can’t believe I paid $28 for it )


#2
The silver at 18.2% goes to one of germanys finest and another modern vintage legend,
The Leica X1


#1
But the gold and color champion title goes to the streets shooters best friend.. no less than 36.4%….
.. Acclaimed King of the B&W and now also colors…
The Riiiiiiicoooooooooh GRii!!!!!!!!!

 
Thanks for participating, this was fun imo!
/M

And my point is, I wish they would design a camera that isn't ergonomically stupid, so we don't HAVE to rig it up just to make it work like a video camera. Of course there are rigs designed to add this type of functionality, but why should we have to buy $1k work of accessories just to make it functional? Or spend $5k+ on an UM4.6k? Yes, the Micro has a mount for a bigger battery on back, but they went with an LP-E6 instead of a camcorder battery, which I think is stupid, because you can get camcorder batteries in different capacities/sizes. If you want to use it as an action camera or on a gimbal/drone, just use one of the slimmer/lower capacity batteries, and if you want to shoot anything else, you can attach a larger battery that will last for more than 1-1.5 hours.

Does look interesting!

Thank you very much, got it sorted!

Where does it say Raw? B&H says jpeg only for 24fps stills.
 
"Buffer/Continuous Shooting Up to 24 fps at 20.1 MP for up to 249 Frames in JPEG Format"

Intentionally or is that just the point at which it stops because its overheated like their other cameras?

Damn! I just remembered this thread, and I've posted a decent number of videos since the last update! hahaha
ANAMORPHIC COOKBOOK - A CRY FOR HELP
http://www.tferradans.com/blog/?p=8752
ANAMORPHIC ON A BUDGET - SINGLE FOCUS SHOOTOUT
http://www.tferradans.com/blog/?p=9496
ANAMORPHIC CHOP SHOP - ANAMORPHIC MUMPS CORRECTOR
http://www.tferradans.com/blog/?p=13852
ANAMORPHIC COOKBOOK - UPCOMING, 2017
http://www.tferradans.com/blog/?p=13941
ANAMORPHIC ON A BUDGET - CINEMORPH SIGMA 18-35MM F/1.8 ART
http://www.tferradans.com/blog/?p=13960
ANAMORPHIC ON A BUDGET - CINEMORPH FILTERS
http://www.tferradans.com/blog/?p=13998
ANAMORPHIC ON A BUDGET - SLR MAGIC ANAMORPHOT 1.33X-40
http://www.tferradans.com/blog/?p=13954
ANAMORPHIC CHOP SHOP - SLR MAGIC FLARE FIX
http://www.tferradans.com/blog/?p=14073
ANAMORPHIC CHOP SHOP - ANAMORPHIC AND DAVINCI RESOLVE
http://www.tferradans.com/blog/?p=14107
ANAMORPHIC ON A BUDGET - KOWA 8-Z
http://www.tferradans.com/blog/?p=13963
ANAMORPHIC ON A BUDGET - SANKOR 16-D
http://www.tferradans.com/blog/?p=13962
ANAMORPHIC ON A BUDGET - ISCO ULTRA STAR
http://www.tferradans.com/blog/?p=14072
ANAMORPHIC ON A BUDGET - SINGLE FOCUS SHOOTOUT "HELD"
http://www.tferradans.com/blog/?p=14158
ANAMORPHIC COOKBOOK - WE'RE BACK ON A BUDGET!
http://www.tferradans.com/blog/?p=14179
ANAMORPHIC ON A BUDGET - LETUS ANAMORPHX-GP 1.33X
http://www.tferradans.com/blog/?p=13953
ANAMORPHIC CHOP SHOP - INSTALLING THE LETUS ANAMORPHX-GP
http://www.tferradans.com/blog/?p=13958
 
And, on the side, I had a few narrative projects that I posted about, in case anyone is interested in the stuff I do besides the reviews!
OVERNIGHT - PRODUCTION OVERVIEW
http://www.tferradans.com/blog/?p=14090
OVERNIGHT - PRODUCTION UPDATE
http://www.tferradans.com/blog/?p=14106
UP & AWAY - INDIEGOGO CAMPAIGN