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Sanveer bhai, while I can appreciate that you taken the time to express yourself in the form of a rebuttal in defence of your country, I would encourage you to leave aside your accusation that I'm 'conveniently trying to blame everyone else but the country that started this all' as nowhere in any of my writings have I done this. Except for the bat fuckers. Btw, I love our India more than you can possibly imagine, and was only echoing what the 'world' already knows through India's almost entirely corrupt news media. 'Goebbels' would certainly be proud of what the BJP (India's current government) and the RSS are doing. Can you say fascism? I suggest we drop this before someone gets... emotional.

I couldn't find it in the article but it sounds like cooking the meat doesn't stop the risk. It's in the protein. http://www.cfsph.iastate.edu/Factsheets/pdfs/chronic_wasting_disease.pdf Chronic wasting disease (CWD) is a neurodegenerative disease caused by a prion that affects cervids including deer, elk and moose. ... Cooking does not destroy prions, and ingestion of another prion, the agent that causes bovine spongiform encephalopathy (BSE), has been linked to a fatal human neurological disease.

If there is one thing that Indians love to do it's beating one another with long sticks. The government has said that it is now using this as a treatment for Covid-19. Many report feeling better after... like movie stars.

Well... I'm no scientist but. Looking at the reports coming out of India (for example) - which by the way has the largest amount of young people on the planet by far (less prone to die by this virus) - the country is teetering on the very edge of a MASSIVE outbreak the likes of which is going to make everything else look insignificant. The government totally bungled the situation.... at one point they grabbed some suspected cases out of the airport in Delhi, put them on a bus to a fucked up and filthy building still under construction in a northern suburb, then brought in a photographer to shoot a few propaganda pics so the government could claim that the country had a quarantine program. The whole thing was staged. Then they immediately released everyone who was by that point sicker with other illnesses. Also, India refused to test people. No test, no virus. Chalega. I imagine it's the same for other countries with substandard reporting practices. Iran? Now the virus is moving hard and fast through the country in its incubation period... so we are going to see the numbers in a few weeks. Also, because developing countries often lack the facilities to know who died from 'exactly' what, it could be hard to know. Temperature (heat) could also be keeping the numbers down as well. Also... my feeling is that folks in developing countries are more resilient to disease than their hyper clean white glove wearing Western counterparts. I've passed 11 years in South Asia and haven't so much as had a cold/ flu in over 4 years. But the first few years were rough.

I remember hearing Hunter Thompson say something like "Whenever something fucked up happens, one has to ask, who stands to profit?" So if the Chinese purposely launched this, who is going to benefit and how? And if they didn't 'purposely' launch this, then who is going to take advantage of this and how? The climate activists are saying that this is a wake up call and will cause people to take a look at how we are living on the planet... but 99% of the population could give a shit about that. "Hey look... a sale on SUVs! Now I can drive further into the forrest and get my own bat to fuck."

If you can think it, there is certainly someone out there doing it. Desperation makes for strange bed partners.

If someone could just get a super version of the virus to bind to the dick of every Chinese government official, I'd rest a lot easier.

Interesting read. Thanks. I had just commented to a friend on how a global enforcement body absolutely has to see to it that people stop handling/ eating dangerous forms of bush meat. Engineering viruses may have uses beyond my comprehension... but the risk are certainly making themselves apparent. Only in China could one conduct a level 4 virology experiment on an animal, then sell it off in a meat market at the end of the day. Last time I was in Beijing - sitting in a restaurant waiting for a bowl of duck soup - I read a press report that a fair number of pigs had contracted tuberculosis in a small southern region. They hit the pigs with a massive round of antibiotics to keep their weight up until slaughter but with not enough time for the antibiotics to flush out. 400 people wound in the hospital. A BBC food critic has said, eating meat in China is taking your life in your hands.

That was just my offhanded way off saying that I also come here for the way Andrew flys and governs the site (more specifically the lack of governance) - the other moderator (Larry David's brother?) once red flagged me for using a semi colon before finally disappearing into the flesh pots of Asia uttering 'So tender, so tasty.' I also agree and can totally relate to your academic experience. At the time, we can't possibly understand how we are being influenced and the perspective it can later bring. Not sure I can remember much of what was taught, but I certainly know which teachers I would now want to share a pint with.

Great post Fuzzy... thanks! Same same but same. And although I don't have a lot to contribute these last few years with regards to camera gak (I'm working through a massive edit on a doc film), I certainly appreciate keeping in the loop via those that do. Onward.

Hey man come on... the French are going to insulted if you don't reference them on this point as well.

I suffered a catastrophic financial blow several months ago via some camera button pushing monkeys that I absolutely know are aligned with regressive low-level values. I can easily imagine that these same folks climb into sites like this to gain insight and fuel their egos in daily life and while on shoots. And sometimes they then climb into roles where they decide if you work... or lose your house. Fuck these 'people.'

Somehow the 'innernet' has given a microphone to folks who have a blatant disregard for sourcing 'intelligent ideas and viewpoints' that lead to morals and values worth upholding. Looking the other way while lining one's pockets is the main reason America is in the mess that it is... and a self-serving buffoon offering carrots to those he tramples under foot is still just that. I used to see banning people as a little heavy handed, but the fact is that I really come to appreciate sound view points that are built of strong moral fabric. Life is too short to wade through anything less. But please Allah, don't let me be next

The only thing that's 'spreading' here is Chinese government feelgood propaganda. Check the networks.

In a perfect world, I largely agree. However, it could be reasoned that the uncomfortable side of such thinking is that if vast number of people leave it to government to look vital needs, they may become less resilient in times of crisis. On the same token, if lazy incompetent people - who would normally perish through shortsighted thinking and practice, regardless of pandemics like this - are kept alive and allowed to procreate, they perpetuate the cycle... giving rise to a exploitable vote bank that will be lulled into thinking they will be looked after. Unfortunately - though not always - the people get the government they deserve. Edit. Of course I realize that in the context of your comment, you were away from the English roses.

Profiteering. March 19, 2020 Senator Richard Burr Sold a Fortune in Stocks as G.O.P. Played Down Coronavirus Threat North Carolina Republican warned a group that the virus could soon cause a major disruption in the United States. Three other senators also sold major holdings around the same time. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/19/us/politics/richard-burr-stocks-sold-coronavirus.html Whether this is entirely true or not, one would be foolish not think that there isn't a consortium of bastards plotting on how to best make a buck off this. Who else would like to see a complete financial account of how politicians and the 1% are manoeuvring right now?

Ah yes... thanks. Yes he has certainly left his polished mark on the mass collective psyche... fear, panic, and the triumph of good over evil. Never read the books... I'm sure there are enough around that if we had to keep warm, we'd be fine

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Nice work Andrew, and thank you for taking the lead here and orienting the thread correctly. Your comment certainly remarks on the wide variance in morality and strangely... individual coping mechanisms. And to the profiteers, fuck them! You can see this even into the twentieth century with that wonderful film by Ingmar Bergman, “The Seventh Seal,” where the plague is a metaphor for what Bergman was worried about in 1957, which is nuclear war. One can see that it has all the things that I’ve been talking about with regard to the plague, including the danse macabre with which the film ends. You’d see paintings of the Grim Reaper coming, and it really is an example of the persistence of this artistic response to death. I'm certainly a fan of ethnographic art film that leverages historical events as a catalyst in which to explore ideas and themes and somehow find myself curious how future filmmakers will exploit the catastrophic Covid-19, where this could lead and what it could say in a larger context. This virus, as other before it, will touch and influence so many lives... as storytellers it will be an interesting challenge to not only leverage this event, but finesse it beyond the mediocre. Let's see what comes. BTW, the first film I saw as a child was The Andromeda Strain.

Ok, that settles it then... if you are right of centre, things like history and science don't matter anymore.

An insightful read that leverages history, art and the need for unity: https://www.newyorker.com/news/q-and-a/how-pandemics-change-history

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I want you to imagine a world where the morally upright and most fucked over people on this planet should come first... instead of the 'I', 'me', 'mine'.

Hey clown-man. Like the others, I'm done with you.