TSV

3 hours ago, Shenan said:

No need to call me a hog. But I stand corrected then. The B&H specs for it say a time limit of 29:59, but I now see that someone posted on dpreview that they personally tested up to about 1h 30m on 4k and IBIS. Impressive! I guess they've already made the engineering breakthrough I was imagining. Any links for the engineers talking about the heatsink? I would like know more about what they did.

Sanveer, you may be right that it was a design flaw with previous cameras. It's just curious that no one had solved it before.

I'm curious about what they're going to do with all the processing power that they're planning to add (according to a previous rumor). H.265 would be one of the possibilities, but hopefully other goodies as well. Anyway, I think I need to start saving my pennies for this camera...

There is a crop however when you enable IBIS + Digital Stabilisation. Just saying. 

What really baffled me here with the 5DMKIV, 1DX MKII and MJPEG, is that the XC10 (Like it or hate it) is a 2000 USD Camera with an inferior Image processor (Digic 5) but comes with a more "modern" codec : XF-AVC 4.2.2 Codec 8Bit internal and 10 external and Canon Log.

If they could have done that on a Digic5 IP, why can't they do that on a new Digic6+ IP??!?!?

If only it could be cheaper...  

46 minutes ago, Matthew19 said:

interesting,  I wonder how the HDR in video works. 

 

Saw that too and WOW I want this on the GH5 ;-)

23 hours ago, Flynn said:

My apologies TSV. It looks like I rated this thread 1 star while I was simply scrolling down the screen wjth my thumb. I then tried to change it to 5 stars. Just don't want you thinking someone considers this a 1 star thread, though some people at Panasonic might !

It was you!!! Let's be honest, you are in fact a Panasonic agent and now have some remorse for what you have done ;-)

2 hours ago, Mat Mayer said:

I can email you the firmware version with it free in if you want. Version 2.3 which is a 39MB zip file. I dont regard this as unethical at all as they gave it us free with no instruction not to share.

Thanks Mat, this is ok, I have a spare camera (GX7MKII) and I can survive for a week without the GH4. It is just that this Vlog story from Panasonic is a mess from start to end. They should have give it for free. Adding all steps was the prefect recipe for stories like mine. Bottom line if this happen to more people, this upgrade will cost them more than they earned by selling it.

Hi everyone, 

Here you are a little story that I hope will help you to get ready if this ever happen to you and hopefully, if Panasonic is reading this forum, could be fix in the future.

Now, before going any further I am not a Heavy user of V-Log L  and think that this option from Pana was a scam (They could have pushed it for free), anyway here I go.

I purchased V-Log L in April and activated it on my GH4 without problem, then,  a month later my GH4 started to accumulate dust on the censor and despite all my best effort I could not remove these little white dots.

I went to Panasonic Akihabara Center in Tokyo (where I live) and when I showed them my camera, they told me that the bust was stuck between the sensor itself and the cover that protect the sensor. They announced me that it will cost me 70,000 Yen to fix it (understand change the sensor), but they realised that the camera was just purchased in January and took everything under warranty... So far so good.

48h later I got my Camera back, spent 20 minutes setting everything back to the way it was (They reseted the camera). Today however I wanted to shoot in V-Log L and I realized that this setting was gone... Then it hit me... Panasonic must have changed more than the sensor on my camera without telling me, or was it their factory reset that wiped-out my V-Log L?

Anyway, I had the code with me and decided to re-enable V-Log L online... And this is where everything started to go the wrong way.

1. The Code was no longer valide
2. Called Panasonic Akihabara Center, and while they have everything in record their engineer said that V-Log L could not go away like this and just for a new sensor. 
3. After insisted quite a bit, they double check and call me back to announce that they will have to send my camera back to the factory alongside my Key-code to sort this out, ETA? At least a week!!!!

Well you have it, if you ever need to send your camera to Panasonic don't imagine for a minute that you will get if back with V-Log L if it was installed on your camera before and expect to waist more time to get it fix... 

13 minutes ago, Mattias Burling said:

Here its just a couple of $100 more than a a6300. Good price imo.

Not complaining about the price of the Body itself, I also believe that the price is VERY competitive. Has I said it is launched at the same price the GH4 was launched 2 years ago. What I do not like is the cost of the accessories... 43K Yen for the grip and 9K yen for their new "heat proof" battery is quite a lot.

The Camera will cost (in Japan) 160,000 Yen (Body), then if you want to shoot 30" you will need to add 43,000 Yen for the Battery grip and 1 Batteries at 9,000 Yen??? (I presume that you can use the one given with the camera and only need to by a spare one)

It quickly start to be expensive. The price was attractive, after all it is price in Japan at the same price that was the GH4 when launched... But adding the cost of the Battery grip and another battery... Not sure now.

7 minutes ago, MattH said:

It basically makes the battery grip essential for video shooting, so we should just perceive it as one item and add to the price accordingly.

In the Japanese press they are not mentioning that the battery grip is extending the recording time. It seems to be a Limit imposed on the Camera due to heat problem. Where did you see that adding the battery grip will extend the recodring time?

5 minutes ago, Viet Bach Bui said:

When the Sony overheats at 10min it's total crap. When Fuji does it it's brilliant because it can be increased to 30min with a grip, nevermind the fact that one can be used on the A6300 for the same effect

Again, where are you seeing the battery grip is extending the recoding time? Can't find this on the Japanese press.

---- UPDATE ----

Ok, got my answer from Fujifilm Press page

また、4K動画の記録時間を約30分に延長するなど、「X-T2」の性能を最大限に引き出すアクセサリーです。

It indeed extend the recording time to 30". I will wait what Panasonic will announce, can shoot almost 2h on the GX7MKII and did 1h on my GH4.

Seriously? 10 Minutes of video recording in 4K? 15 in HD? WATH FUCK??

動画記録は最大3,840×2,160/29.97P。4K記録は連続最大約10分まで、フルHDは同約15分まで、HDは同約29分まで。

Everyone, thanks for the feedback... I will keep on going native then.

Cheers!

11 hours ago, Justin Bacle said:

Just FYI, I just bought a Samyang 12mm T2.2 in M43 mount (for wide shots as the 7-14/4 can be too dark), and am very happy with it

I am not confortable with manual focus lens only... Otherwise I would have jump on Samyang.

8 hours ago, mercer said:

Have you looked at the Voigtlander 10mm?

Micro 4/3rds, f/0.95, cheaper than the Panasonic 12mm. 

I have read a lot of bad review on this 10mm, while other models are outstanding. And, as said just above I am not confortable with manual focus lenses.

7 hours ago, jonpais said:

@OP What exactly will you be shooting?

Mainly landscape, street view and occasionally craftworkers https://www.youtube.com/user/TokyoStreetView

5 hours ago, j.f.r. said:

Your problem is the camera...... You need wide go with a Full Frame camera (Sony a7s) You need fast or high iso go with a Full Frame camera (Sony A7s)

Problem solved/

 I wanted to love Sony, but the early problems with the A7RII, A7SII coupled with their recording time limite (without hack), horrible menus, limited Remote app, poor battery time, amazingly expensive body, bulky (and expensive), soft image in 4K (A7SII is softer than the GH4), lenses couple to the fact that there are no Sony repair center in Tokyo* for the average consumer stopped me in my purchase. For the same price as a Sony A7SII I will prefer to wait and go back to Canon for a potential 5DMK IV

*There is actually one but you need to own 3 lenses 2 bodies and pay a yearly fee, while Nikon, Canon, Pana have a repair center that handle most your problem in an hour or a day at most (in my case their changed the sensor of my GH4 in 24h because of dust)

2 hours ago, Inazuma said:

http://www.43rumors.com/panasonic-announces-new-leica-12mm-f1-4-apsh-summilux-lens/

$1299.99

I'm sure the performance is astounding... but come on now. Do these mirrorless companies actually want people to buy their lenses?

That's a bargain! In Japan it is announced at 180,000 Yen or 1,700 USD! (http://news.panasonic.com/jp/press/data/2016/06/jn160615-1/jn160615-1.html)

Hi everyone

I need some advise. As for today I own a GH4 and GX7MKII with a 12-35mm, 35-100mm and 15mm. I have two problems with this setting

1. I need faster lens (1.7 is not that great on the 15mm)
2. I need a wider angle than the 12mm.

Now my problem is as follow.

Shall I get M43 lenses? The just announce 12mm 1.4 is sexy, but the price is just insane. While the 7-14mm from Pana is affordable but not that sharp and stuck to F4 and the 7-14 from Olympus at 2.8 cost twice as much as Pan one, but is amazing.

Or... Shall I go the Speedbooster way and get a Tokina AT-X 11-20 F2.8 PRO DX 11-20mm F2.8 and a 18-35 Sigma Art (all Canon mount)/ To give you an idea, the cost of The Olympus 7-14 will cover the cost of the Tokina and Speedbooster. While the cost of the New Pana 12 1.4, will cover the cost of the Simga and Speedbooster.

I have seen a few 4K Video shot with the Sigma and this lens seems to outperform my 12-35mm un every way (please correct me if I am wrong), but I was not able to find videos shot in 4K with the Tokina.

Thanks in advance. 

2 hours ago, JurijTurnsek said:

Does the GX have slight 4K crop? is there some downsampling involved? Sony put their bet on a higher mpx sensor and drop-dead gorgeus downsampled 4K image and went with the hunch that most of their customer shoot short clips.

The 4K out of the box on the GX is the same as the G7 or GH4, and in my opinion, if you put aside the amazing ISO performance of a Sony Camera, the GH4 produce a sharper video than a a7Sii for example and have a better color science than Sony's. Then add on top of that the price of a Sony...

Anyway this GX is my B Cam, and I love it. Not perfect but affordable. 

33 minutes ago, The Chris said:

The app/hack allows unlimited recording on Sony bodies that can take apps. My a7rII goes until the card is full with the grip attached. 

Cheers

So you need a "Hack" that may break your camera warranty, a battery grip with two batteries on a 3000 USD camera to do something that a 800 USD Camera can do out of the box? Just saying...

Just now, Hanriverprod said:

4k?

Of course. Will amend the post to make it clear.

If you were wondering how long you can shoot with a Lumix GX80/85/7MKII, well at least 1h04 minutes! Or the full length it takes to ride the Yamanote line in Tokyo ;-)

And, will the trains here are air cooled, the camera after 1h was just barely warm and it had enough juice for maybe another full hour ride... Impressive!

Note.

1. The Camera used was a GX7MKII from Japan (English menus are now available on these cameras)

2. Used a 12-35mm Lens

3. Tiffen Variable ND

4. Dual IS was on

5. Battery was fully charged when started recording.

6. The video was shot in 4K30p (Update)

On 5/27/2016 at 2:22 AM, The Chris said:

Really nice comparison... Still I am not even close to be as stable when walking as you when using my GX7MKII... How do you achieve such movement and fluidity when walking???

Just now, mercer said:

Try Lock&Load by CoreMelt. 

Doing this as we speak ;-)

1 minute ago, mercer said:

Try Lock&Load by CoreMelt. 

Tested all Stabilisation available in FCPx plys Lock&Load, with my camera mounted on the 12-35 and I cannot achieve such level of stab with Dual IS

9 hours ago, jai2yeux said:

All handheld, 5 axis IS and warp stabilizer in PP.

[From his comments on Vimeo in french:

EmericPRO3 days ago

Merci Cyril ! La stabilisation doit beaucoup au système de stabilisation 5 axes du GX80. Pour parfaire la stab, j'ai utilisé l'outil de stabilisation de Première Pro CC (Warp stabilizer ou en français Stabilisation de déformation), qui en effet fonctionne très bien.]

I am speech less, I cannot achieve such level of stabilisation on mine with the same setting. Granted I am on FFCPx not PP

21 hours ago, bigfried said:

heres the link for more info  : 

https://vimeo.com/167441134

 

Shot with the Panasonic Lumix GX80 / GX85 while testing it for hybridcams.fr
Handheld + Stabilisation applied in post
4K UHD - 24p - MP4
Panasonic 12-35 mm f/2.8 | Panasonic 35-100 mm F2.8 | Panasonic 100-400 mm F/4.0-6.3

 

 

 

This was not shot entirely handled, right? Only a few shots... 

Well done, but it seems that the GX80/85/7MKII is not so good in Low Light and there are few artefact on your footage too (I just food this out today). Still a great camera, but I will keep on using it as a B-came.

 

On 5/23/2016 at 7:34 AM, trafficarte said:

Does the GX80 overheating issues?

Yesterday by mistake I pushed the record button on my camera while having a drink on a terrace in Tokyo (28c here). The camera was on the table and 30 minutes later when I took the camera I was wandering why it was "hot"... have been recording for a good half hour by mistake!! So to answer your question, it can do FOR sure record 30 minutes without any problems and this despite being under Tokyo's sun!

22 hours ago, Moshimo Garcia said:

To stay on the topic of gimbals, I was wondering if anyone here has owned or owns the Ronin-M? I was waiting to get the Pilotfly h2 but it never shipped no was ever any indicator given so gotta take what I can get.

The problem that I am currently having with the Ronin-M, though, is that no matter what I do to try and get the X axis balanced manually before running the Tuning App, it does not stay in place the way it should.

I had my buddy record me as I attempt to illustrate the problem. Any suggestions would be a Godsend. 

 

I just only had bad experience with DJI, first with their Ronin, so hard to calibrate and once done the result was not that great (worse than my TV-Came Single). Add to this the worse support ever (They even refuse to meet me in their office here in Japan for help. I just asked them to show me how to make it worked, they refused). Then I bought an Osmo... Work great when it comes to stabilisation but the X3 video quality is just crap (Especially in 4K).... Sent if back after 2 days. Bottom line, I will not in the near future purchase any new DJI products... This company comes with the worse user experience possible, they make really good locking and well built products, promise a lot and at the end...