Mattias Burling

welll duh..... the 6k is nearly double the price you would expect it to better.
pretty sure the p4k can capture it... you must be doing something wrong.
technically the only thing being vocal is you!! I would bet most of us p4k owners are happy chappies, but perhaps not everyone. Not sure what your game is, and honestly i dont care.
I guess 4k isnt enough for you. 6k should compensate for whatever it  is your lacking. ?

Living in America doesn't mean you like Americans does it?
The question you asked the EOS wasn't what I commented about and you seemed flustered and triggered in your last 3-4 post. You commenting on how RedCode is great and Canon can't do RAW shows you don't know much about RED or Canon. 
Why do you keep taking shots at me?  I haven't posted comments directed at you, I didn't start any new conversations with you. 
 
Why do you take issue with me defending the P6K?  
Why take personal shots at me?  Did I ever post comments to you that offended you? No, so why get nasty with me?

I am not a former EOS member. Sorry to burst your bubble.  How many other people did you have issue with?

Ha ha ha, what an epic clown you are... 
I guess if I told you I've lived in the US you would deny it just like all the other lies you tell as soon as your wrong.
I thought you would wake up yesterday when no one answered in your favor when you and I asked the forum if they agreed with you.. but I guess that's just further confirmation of your troll status.
(And I think it's sweet that you still try with personal attacks even though it only makes us laugh )
Yup, I won't mention any names but I've had a prime suspect for a while on "Skip The Judder 77" true identity

Same thing for me. I had that troll on ignore but some how he resurfaces. 
Because you are trolling and deserve it?

Andrew why's this guy allowed to use this language ?

The post you just made is trolling.  
I made no comments directed at you.
You guys don't like AMERICANS and that's all this is.  You all ran off @webrunner5 because of his views and you attack me for saying the same-things camera related comments that other people post about. 
 
You might want to create a few more new click - bait titles for your You Tube channel instead of bothering with me. 

Please don’t advertise you’re an American, it makes the rest of us look bad.
Hahaha... just kidding. 
I’m almost convinced Skip77 (and possibly ZachGoodwin2) are alter egos of somebody on this site having a laugh.

Hey I responded in kind as one.  
How does EF mount have less options? 
The lens options are endless and for serious cine shooters EF gives you options that you can build around.  
There's no extra cost in dealing with 6K footage. You like spreading false information motion don't you? If you're working with P4K 4k footage then you're not talking a hit working with 6k Braw in Resolve.  Resolve has CPU and GPU requirements that are the same for the p4K footage and P6K footage.  But keep spreading false info to make your case.
It's been proven the P6K resolves better detail then the p4K.  This should worry you but you don't get it or have already made excuses for it. 
The P4K is a great camera and no need for you to justify your P4K purchase unless you feel threatened.  You can keep your tricked out speed boosters and the issue it brings.  I know P4K speed booster users feel like they're beating the system and that they're smart using speed boosters to cheat the camera up to better specs, but most pro's have embraced the P6K because they see the advantages.  
And if the additional cost of the P6K bothers you then you really have no business owning the P4K or P6K. ( I paraphrased this from multiple users when they said it too me).

EDIT>>>
I had a longer reply but really I think "Fuck off" will suffice.
I'm joining the long list of people that have you on ignore you complete and utter tit.
 

Push Focus on EOS R with the 50mm F1.2 wide open is blazing fast (like maybe 0.4ms).
AF continuous takes about a second to transition a focus pull from +2m to near distance (with the AF settings I have). It's even faster on my 6yo C100 mk1 DAF.

Based on comparing the actual sensor size of the Pocket 6K with the JVC LS300 then from my experience the typical VSM setting on most MFT lenses would just cover it. 
Though even a small windowed crop mode of 5-10% with that extra resolution would be a worthwhile trade off to be able to use those lenses.
You think and have seen ?
Which one is it ? 
Your argument or one that you have seen?
Either way, can you talk me through how there can be a better argument for the EF mount camera when both cameras could take EF lenses and the MFT camera can additionally use native MFT, Leica M and PL mount lenses ?
Based on the arguments you have thought of/seen would your Nikon Z6 have been better to be F mount or is it better to have the shallower Z mount that opens up a whole mass of different lens options and also be able to use F mount as well then?
MFT P4K users ?
As opposed to what?
Users of the non-existent EF P4k?
You are conflating two entirely different things.
These are different cameras and hence why the reaction from people who actually own the Pocket 4K has been largely muted because either they aren't that bothered about the extra resolution or prefer the extra flexibility of the MFT mount or don't want to spend the extra money to trade up the camera and the increased IT costs of dealing with 6K or some combination of all of those. 
And some owners have gone "great, I'll buy the 6K one and use that as well".
As much as you'd clearly likely there to be a massive outpouring of rage from Pocket 4K owners about this new camera, it just isn't there because this is not a Mark II version of the Pocket 4K thats come in at the same price with more resolution, it is clearly a different camera.
For anyone with a bizarre fetish for revelling in and stoking other people's outrage, I can see that that would be a disappointment but it doesn't alter the facts.
Now, if the Pocket 6K had come out with an MFT mount at or around the same price then you might well have needed a few extra boxes of Kleenex and some screen wipes but thats because that would have been a Mark II version of the Pocket 4K.
But then of course, that would also be related to it using the same, more flexible,  mount. 
You can't get any detail on the P6K if you can't get your lens on it.
Are we just going to gloss over the fact that you can't mount the vast majority of PL lenses on it or does that not now matter for a cinema camera ?
There are flaws in a lot of the side by side tests but if we let that slide then considering its twice the price then it should really shouldn't it?
Which is why its whats known as a different camera.
 

@drm would be very interested to hear if a native EF lens performs better. Keep us posted.

Ive had both and compared them side by side. The Viltrox is sharper on all apertures accept for wide open, has an adjustable back focus (no tools required) and its like a third of the price.
The only Metabones I would ever buy is the dedicated BMPCC version (which I currently own), used. Otherwise I would go Viltrox (I sold my Metabones XL).

Quite well. Pretty smooth and after the background render it was as smooth as anything really.

I do not believe that is true, otherwise I would be taking my MLV files directly into FCPX.
However, I think Skip might believe that all Raw is the same, which we know it is not, just like he is confused with the stutter, judder, flicker 24fps debate.
So, in short, I don’t think Skip is having the same conversations we are having and rather than acknowledging that, he is doubling down and grasping onto single words in sentences to save face.
In other news, how did the Redcode files from the Raven get along with your computer?

24fps is motion picture cinematic's choice forever.  The argument that 24fps has a built in stutter is ridiculous.  If 24fps had a built in stutter it would be unwatchable. 
24fps has a stutter that happens but it' not built in.  The GH5 has a massive stutter glitch that happens if you move left or right for 3 seconds.  That's the GH5's fault. This has all been discussed in the other thread started by that smart guy that was kicked out of the EOS. 
 
Canon DLSR cameras have been able to shoot RAW for 10 years.  
And RedCode is a marketing gimmick. 
Everyone else is smart enough to see you are wrong.
Did you see that stutter at 2:27 second mark.  Man his mouth and face just juddered like crazy. 

Stutter and judder. Canon and Sony raw works natively in FCPX. The RED plugin doesn't exist. The P6K can only shoot videoish. The P6K can not shoot videoish. He has said so much weird stuff it's impossible to keep track.
Plus he always puts naive flame baits and personal attacks in the posts to try and derail them and shift focus when he knows he is wrong. Classic troll behavior or that of a juvenile. 
 

Stutter and judder. Canon and Sony raw works natively in FCPX. The RED plugin doesn't exist. The P6K can only shoot videoish. The P6K can not shoot videoish. He has said so much weird stuff it's impossible to keep track.
Plus he always puts naive flame baits and personal attacks in the posts to try and derail them and shift focus when he knows he is wrong. Classic troll behavior or that of a juvenile. 
 

People who says 24fps has no stutter should be condemned to a life of playing first person shooters at 24 fps.

It's not cherry picking. It's actually trying to stop false information about 24fps having a built in stutter.  It's not my fault you ride the fence on every comment you make.  You even say that when you post.  You play for people to like you instead of having an opinion. You act like this is high school and you want to be part of the click.
Sorry but the word videoish that @Mattias Burling threw out pissed me off because he did it as an asshat and did nothing to back it up.  
So please be on your way and keep my name out of your post.  
Again you bring nothing to defend yourself. Why?
You're not up to date on RED and clearly you are the one that doesn't read or comprehend people's post.   That's why people have to explain everything to you over and over again.  
Do you need anymore help understanding FCPX?

Don’t confuse my lack of caring as “riding the fence.”  I come to this site to learn and to discuss filmmaking and filmmaking gear, not to argue with people that are incapable of admitting when they’re wrong.
24fps has a stutter/judder, end of discussion. It is a fact! In all honesty, the word FLICKER, is probably a better choice, but with semantics aside, 24fps is anything but smooth.
https://www.filmindependent.org/blog/hacking-film-24-frames-per-second/
 

Thanks, I guess I better get that plugin before Red forbids FCPX users to access it.
Dont worry, I already went a round with that guy and I really don’t have the time, or inclination, to debate basic camera operations and the history of 24p in cinema with someone who will cherry pick one word in a sentence to try and prove his argument.
Thanks, but don’t go too crazy, I base a lot of my opinions on mojo.
Btw, I recently used the Samyang 50mm 1.4 on a shoot and I think I may have a hard time parting with that lens. Lol. 

You mean when I answer your question about why Sony and Canon donor have RAW on their lower priced cameras because of RED. You must not understand or acknowledge that RAW was unlocked on Canon DSLR's with Magic Lantern CODE.  
You get owned and showed you didn't do your homework and that you bought into RedCode's hype and marketing.
Did you read the link I sent you?   
I read and answered every bit of your comments.
Do you actually understand how RED has controlled RAW output from Sony and Canon and others?
No you guys and gals ran off @webrunner for good.  You won't break me the same way.
You smart-ass people need to educate yourself.  The ones who have been nice and civil that comment wasn't for you. 
https://www.rtings.com/tv/tests/motion/stutter
Stutter of TVs
Stutter on TVs influences how smooth motion appears on the screen. It is generally most visible in slow panning shots with low frame rate content such as movies and causes a regular pattern of jerkiness. This is different to judder, which is an irregular pattern of jerkiness caused by inconsistent frame cadence. For watching movies or even field sports, it is important to get a TV with low stutter.